Is it a joke or a death threat?

[Beanz]

[El Kabong]

Clever response by that twitter user albeit an apples and oranges comparison.


It's beyond my comprehension how a guy (Mark Meechan/Count Dankula) who was a lefty his entire life makes a joke an EASILY understood parody (which isn't benefiting, glamorizing, or showering with praise) of Nazis and for some reason the herd mentality of certain folks take it seriously and due to that they label Mark Meechan/Count Dankula an actual Nazi.



I really do wonder why this has continued.....do these outraged folks who see him a Nazi actually believe he's a Nazi OR are they so embarrassed by their awful take they're thinking "Maybe if we actually think he's a Nazi until he dies or capitulates to our outrage machine we won't look so bad at the end of all this"


Also other notable "Nazis": John Cleese, Charlie Chaplain, Mel Brooks, Freddie Starr.....yet Meechan receives death threats for it and oddly enough not even from Nazis he was mocking, but from people who are "Anti-Fascist" yet those very same people have some very strict views on speech.....

[Fenster]

I think the problem with that Count Duck bloke is, he exposed peoples own hypocrisy, especially the media. They all jumped on the band wagon calling him an evil racist - he looks like a wrongun, he's from Scotland - before realising it was supposed to be comedy and in fact he's not a thug but "intelligent." And quite simply won't admit they were wrong. Frankie Boyle is funny because he's a lefty but this bloke isn't because he's a lefty we don't believe in.

It seems to me, the media can't stand the fact these Youtubers have created massive followings and big money championing free speech and arguing against political correctness. And the majority of the "anti-fascist" mob have been exposed as massive hypocrites.

[Gandalf]

I think the problem with that Count Duck bloke is, he exposed peoples own hypocrisy, especially the media. They all jumped on the band wagon calling him an evil racist - he looks like a wrongun, he's from Scotland - before realising it was supposed to be comedy and in fact he's not a thug but "intelligent." And quite simply won't admit they were wrong. Frankie Boyle is funny because he's a lefty but this bloke isn't because he's a lefty we don't believe in.

It seems to me, the media can't stand the fact these Youtubers have created massive followings and big money championing free speech and arguing against political correctness. And the majority of the "anti-fascist" mob have been exposed as massive hypocrites.

Well said. The ''anti fascist" brigade are targeting people who want the opposite of shutting down discourse and actually do think there is some merit to democracy. At the latest UKIP meet they were trying to drown out discourse with noise tactics, violence, and basic abuse. It is very weak and all because they don't like democracy (Brexit) and refuse to accept that people have the right to speak. It is strange that they cannot see that the monster they fear is very much within them already. I honestly find the media and public quite disturbing, but it obviously isn't everyone and as you know Robinson's odds are very low too. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Then Phillips saying that anyone suggesting violence be banned from office. But, she wants to stab Jeremy Corbyn! Of course it is metaphorical, but hey, who is to judge. This is why you do not shut down free speech as it leads to very bad outcomes. Stupid or even dangerous people WILL abuse it for their own ends. Thus you don't even give them the chance to do so.

[Dark Lord Al]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

[Gandalf]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

True, I don't really see people as in the plural disagreeing with me. Maybe Master occasionally, but we can do so nicely. But don't forget Al, it could also be because a) nobody on here wants to talk about these topics or b) I have run them all off the forum.

Note: Not looking for a flame war....just having a laugh!

[Beanz]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

Jones has achieved a lot for a bloke in his early thirties. I assume Miles main problem with him is Jones actual concern for the demonization of the working class and that you hate Jones because you think you are better than most people and consider him a peasant.

[Gandalf]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

Jones has achieved a lot for a bloke in his early thirties. I assume Miles main problem with him is Jones actual concern for the demonization of the working class and that you hate Jones because you think you are better than most people and consider him a peasant.

I actually agree with some of the things he says. I have read his book, but where I draw the line is in the identity politics and classing ordinary people who disagree with him as Nazi's or Alt right. I find that immature and unhelpful. I have demonized the working classes myself, but those view came from formative years, which Jones would not have experienced, such as having someone trespassing our council estate garden and threaten to stab our dog and things like that. As a sensitive child it was a violent side that I simply wasn't used to. Homeless hostels, junkies, damaged people, and people refusing to work and all of that. It didn't leave a good impression on me. Obviously good people too, but I was so young. The dark leaves the bigger impact. I realize that was more the underclass rather than the working class as those people often just won't work at all. That is a world of pure nihilism actually and thus I find you a bit odd painting Peterson as nihilistic.

[Beanz]

Ha! What a load of sanctimonious bollocks. The difference between Frankie Boyle and the count cunt bloke is that Boyle is a comedian.

The duck bloke is part of the do anything to generate a reaction on the Internet shit poster. The irony of the faux outrage people are displaying in order to establish their own right on virtue signalling in brave defence of free speech would be a genius demonstration of assuming a character to use satire, if people really thought about it.

Notice how online his dumb stunt attracted such a gloaty warm hug from wankers like Alex Jones, PJW, and actual anti-semites?but..but...Gervais

Ha!

No acknowledgement that a £800 fine paid one would think by some actual nazi cunt will make no difference now that his noterioty has ballooned massively. Its like X factor for alt right hipsters.

'Champagne Socialists, Billy has got a mansion Bragg, but he was a lefty' same old same old.

If you think Tommy is now an undercover journalist, duckman is a comedian and Tarragon is a statesmen like advocate for free speech, then you deserve the pile of shite you will have to wade thru on order to find something other than pug nuggets.

[Fenster]

Ha! What a load of sanctimonious bollocks. The difference between Frankie Boyle and the count cunt bloke is that Boyle is a comedian.

The duck bloke is part of the do anything to generate a reaction on the Internet shit poster. The irony of the faux outrage people are displaying in order to establish their own right on virtue signalling in brave defence of free speech would be a genius demonstration of assuming a character to use satire, if people really thought about it.

Notice how online his dumb stunt attracted such a gloaty warm hug from wankers like Alex Jones, PJW, and actual anti-semites?but..but...Gervais

Ha!

No acknowledgement that a £800 fine paid one would think by some actual nazi cunt will make no difference now that his noterioty has ballooned massively. Its like X factor for alt right hipsters.

'Champagne Socialists, Billy has got a mansion Bragg, but he was a lefty' same old same old.

If you think Tommy is now an undercover journalist, duckman is a comedian and Tarragon is a statesmen like advocate for free speech, then you deserve the pile of shite you will have to wade thru on order to find something other than pug nuggets.

What a bloody snob!!!

You're not a real photographer David Bailey is ().

[Beanz]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

[Fenster]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.

[Beanz]

Ha! What a load of sanctimonious bollocks. The difference between Frankie Boyle and the count cunt bloke is that Boyle is a comedian.

The duck bloke is part of the do anything to generate a reaction on the Internet shit poster. The irony of the faux outrage people are displaying in order to establish their own right on virtue signalling in brave defence of free speech would be a genius demonstration of assuming a character to use satire, if people really thought about it.

Notice how online his dumb stunt attracted such a gloaty warm hug from wankers like Alex Jones, PJW, and actual anti-semites?but..but...Gervais

Ha!

No acknowledgement that a £800 fine paid one would think by some actual nazi cunt will make no difference now that his noterioty has ballooned massively. Its like X factor for alt right hipsters.

'Champagne Socialists, Billy has got a mansion Bragg, but he was a lefty' same old same old.

If you think Tommy is now an undercover journalist, duckman is a comedian and Tarragon is a statesmen like advocate for free speech, then you deserve the pile of shite you will have to wade thru on order to find something other than pug nuggets.

What a bloody snob!!!

You're not a real photographer David Bailey is ().

Snobbery is a funny thing and I often find myself guilty of reverse snobbery when I meet people with money and a private education etc the old RP accent and i have to remind myself to try and not that cloud my judgement. Pie himself went to the Edingburgh Fringe and was not accepted by many stand up comedians as one of their peers, even though he has put in the hours as working/jobbing actor. Just as many who would accept Duckman as a fellow comedian could not bring themselves to accept a luvie as one of their own. It's not what it appears to be, and just like Robinson in 2019 not having served an apprenticeship writing 'man finds dog' stories for the local rag does not make disqualify him from calling himself what he likes, it is not the same thing.