Is it a joke or a death threat?

[Beanz]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

Jones has achieved a lot for a bloke in his early thirties. I assume Miles main problem with him is Jones actual concern for the demonization of the working class and that you hate Jones because you think you are better than most people and consider him a peasant.

[Fenster]

Ha! What a load of sanctimonious bollocks. The difference between Frankie Boyle and the count cunt bloke is that Boyle is a comedian.

The duck bloke is part of the do anything to generate a reaction on the Internet shit poster. The irony of the faux outrage people are displaying in order to establish their own right on virtue signalling in brave defence of free speech would be a genius demonstration of assuming a character to use satire, if people really thought about it.

Notice how online his dumb stunt attracted such a gloaty warm hug from wankers like Alex Jones, PJW, and actual anti-semites?but..but...Gervais

Ha!

No acknowledgement that a £800 fine paid one would think by some actual nazi cunt will make no difference now that his noterioty has ballooned massively. Its like X factor for alt right hipsters.

'Champagne Socialists, Billy has got a mansion Bragg, but he was a lefty' same old same old.

If you think Tommy is now an undercover journalist, duckman is a comedian and Tarragon is a statesmen like advocate for free speech, then you deserve the pile of shite you will have to wade thru on order to find something other than pug nuggets.

What a bloody snob!!!

You're not a real photographer David Bailey is ().

[Beanz]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

[Gandalf]

I don't know about any of you, but lately we have been hearing a lot about threats NOT to rape somebody, but the same person who says it made her cry has said she would like to stab Jeremy Corbyn!......

You have Miles because its what you seek out and surround yourself with. You are like the blokes Lyle mistakenly calls lefties or centerists when all you actually do is attack the left and big up all these odd right wing heroes. They all have woman issues, girlfriend issues, issues with black people or Jews, or single mothers or immigrants or journalists or the law or more often than not the left.

And the crux of your argument now seems to be because you think you are on the same side as the majority who phone up 'I am a cardigan wearer get me out of here ' you must be right.

Eh? What does all this mean?

I have issues with some of those things and I think you will find a lot of people do. For instance, if I say that the black single mother rates are extraordinarily high and thus harmful for children, I will inevitably be called a racist, a misogynist, and a variety of things. I just think it is healthy to discuss things openly in order to find ways to make things better. Now obviously we do not change the world on a forum, but it is good to mix our ideas and hammer it out. I could tackle each of those things you listed one by one but it would take too long.

Shutting down discourse is a terrible thing and the main issue I have with Phillips is that she is now trying to dictate who should run for office and she is a hypocrite and an authoritarian. You don't want any of that near power. Plus any politician that describes her husband as 'Well fit' on the Internet is odd. I had almost forgotten weird expressions like that existed. 'Well fit' is something Oscar Wilde would never say. Gross.

[Beanz]

I don't know about any of you, but lately we have been hearing a lot about threats NOT to rape somebody, but the same person who says it made her cry has said she would like to stab Jeremy Corbyn!......

You have Miles because its what you seek out and surround yourself with. You are like the blokes Lyle mistakenly calls lefties or centerists when all you actually do is attack the left and big up all these odd right wing heroes. They all have woman issues, girlfriend issues, issues with black people or Jews, or single mothers or immigrants or journalists or the law or more often than not the left.

And the crux of your argument now seems to be because you think you are on the same side as the majority who phone up 'I am a cardigan wearer get me out of here ' you must be right.

Eh? What does all this mean?

I have issues with some of those things and I think you will find a lot of people do. For instance, if I say that the black single mother rates are extraordinarily high and thus harmful for children, I will inevitably be called a racist, a misogynist, and a variety of things. I just think it is healthy to discuss things openly in order to find ways to make things better. Now obviously we do not change the world on a forum, but it is good to mix our ideas and hammer it out. I could tackle each of those things you listed one by one but it would take too long.

Shutting down discourse is a terrible thing and the main issue I have with Phillips is that she is now trying to dictate who should run for office and she is a hypocrite and an authoritarian. You don't want any of that near power. Plus any politician that describes her husband as 'Well fit' on the Internet is odd. I had almost forgotten weird expressions like that existed. 'Well fit' is something Oscar Wilde would never say. Gross.

See. You hate not only the working class but also it's culture. And the English language which is sustained and nourished by absorbing slang.

You sound well thick mate.

[Gandalf]

Miles when its stated "You have a hissy fit when PEOPLE here don't agree with you ".

Change the PEOPLE - TO - PERSON and its nearer the mark.

Owen Jones is a joke of a human being.

Jones has achieved a lot for a bloke in his early thirties. I assume Miles main problem with him is Jones actual concern for the demonization of the working class and that you hate Jones because you think you are better than most people and consider him a peasant.

I actually agree with some of the things he says. I have read his book, but where I draw the line is in the identity politics and classing ordinary people who disagree with him as Nazi's or Alt right. I find that immature and unhelpful. I have demonized the working classes myself, but those view came from formative years, which Jones would not have experienced, such as having someone trespassing our council estate garden and threaten to stab our dog and things like that. As a sensitive child it was a violent side that I simply wasn't used to. Homeless hostels, junkies, damaged people, and people refusing to work and all of that. It didn't leave a good impression on me. Obviously good people too, but I was so young. The dark leaves the bigger impact. I realize that was more the underclass rather than the working class as those people often just won't work at all. That is a world of pure nihilism actually and thus I find you a bit odd painting Peterson as nihilistic.

[Beanz]

Ha! What a load of sanctimonious bollocks. The difference between Frankie Boyle and the count cunt bloke is that Boyle is a comedian.

The duck bloke is part of the do anything to generate a reaction on the Internet shit poster. The irony of the faux outrage people are displaying in order to establish their own right on virtue signalling in brave defence of free speech would be a genius demonstration of assuming a character to use satire, if people really thought about it.

Notice how online his dumb stunt attracted such a gloaty warm hug from wankers like Alex Jones, PJW, and actual anti-semites?but..but...Gervais

Ha!

No acknowledgement that a £800 fine paid one would think by some actual nazi cunt will make no difference now that his noterioty has ballooned massively. Its like X factor for alt right hipsters.

'Champagne Socialists, Billy has got a mansion Bragg, but he was a lefty' same old same old.

If you think Tommy is now an undercover journalist, duckman is a comedian and Tarragon is a statesmen like advocate for free speech, then you deserve the pile of shite you will have to wade thru on order to find something other than pug nuggets.

What a bloody snob!!!

You're not a real photographer David Bailey is ().

Snobbery is a funny thing and I often find myself guilty of reverse snobbery when I meet people with money and a private education etc the old RP accent and i have to remind myself to try and not that cloud my judgement. Pie himself went to the Edingburgh Fringe and was not accepted by many stand up comedians as one of their peers, even though he has put in the hours as working/jobbing actor. Just as many who would accept Duckman as a fellow comedian could not bring themselves to accept a luvie as one of their own. It's not what it appears to be, and just like Robinson in 2019 not having served an apprenticeship writing 'man finds dog' stories for the local rag does not make disqualify him from calling himself what he likes, it is not the same thing.

[Gandalf]

I don't know about any of you, but lately we have been hearing a lot about threats NOT to rape somebody, but the same person who says it made her cry has said she would like to stab Jeremy Corbyn!......

You have Miles because its what you seek out and surround yourself with. You are like the blokes Lyle mistakenly calls lefties or centerists when all you actually do is attack the left and big up all these odd right wing heroes. They all have woman issues, girlfriend issues, issues with black people or Jews, or single mothers or immigrants or journalists or the law or more often than not the left.

And the crux of your argument now seems to be because you think you are on the same side as the majority who phone up 'I am a cardigan wearer get me out of here ' you must be right.

Eh? What does all this mean?

I have issues with some of those things and I think you will find a lot of people do. For instance, if I say that the black single mother rates are extraordinarily high and thus harmful for children, I will inevitably be called a racist, a misogynist, and a variety of things. I just think it is healthy to discuss things openly in order to find ways to make things better. Now obviously we do not change the world on a forum, but it is good to mix our ideas and hammer it out. I could tackle each of those things you listed one by one but it would take too long.

Shutting down discourse is a terrible thing and the main issue I have with Phillips is that she is now trying to dictate who should run for office and she is a hypocrite and an authoritarian. You don't want any of that near power. Plus any politician that describes her husband as 'Well fit' on the Internet is odd. I had almost forgotten weird expressions like that existed. 'Well fit' is something Oscar Wilde would never say. Gross.

See. You hate not only the working class but also it's culture. And the English language which is sustained and nourished by absorbing slang.

You sound well thick mate.

I respect anybody that works hard to provide for their family.

The term 'well fit' is repulsive. It is the kind of language used by a 14 year old to describe a classroom crush, not some politician on social media. You would say 'My husband is a funny, caring, and attractive man' rather than 'My husband is well fit'. It is not the crime of the century, but shows where her brain is at. I would hate to be called 'well fit'. It would turn me right off.

[Fenster]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.

[Gandalf]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.

I don't think they are low life chavs for enjoying that, but I do think most people have pretty terrible taste, especially when they are young. For me, I am a bit snobbish in that I despise soaps, celebrity, and things of that nature. I simply do not see the point. That is a subjective statement of course. However, I think once people get beyond 30 or what have you many do start to catch up as people do grow and crave more.

I am not sure what your last point is about and assume it is something Beanz has said, but I think anybody can do well provided they keep working. If it is something like You Tube or stand up then you might get nowhere. But if you are going to earn a wage and bank regularly nobody has an excuse to not 'succeed', at least by my definition, which is to have a home, some food, and the occasional holiday. I agree that nobody deserves anything.

[Gandalf]

I say fair play to the You Tubers like Pew Die Pie and Co. who have started from nothing and what have you. Beanz goes on about people getting donations, but isn't it good that people are given a choice to pay or not? It's like donating to charity rather than the government taking by force. It is meritorious in that regard. Also for those who put on adverts, you do also have the choice not to watch adverts by blocking them. It's like if you want a book, do you want it for free or do you pay for it? Isn't it even more respectful to say 'Pay if you want, but if you don't want to, then no big deal, just take it'. Kind of cool really. I don't knock self creators and if they get popular then good for them. I think also for some like Nazi Dog Man, he has actually tried getting regular work, but people keep trying to get him sacked and so he has no other avenues. I think that is rather unfair myself as he obviously is a pretty smart chap and like many is quite left leaning in his values. It is just that he likes to make naughty jokes with his dog. I don't think someone like Boyle is any more worthy than a You Tube comedian who hits the big time. Either you can translate to people or you cannot. There are some terrible comedians out there and even Alan Partridge has stopped being funny.

[Beanz]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.

It probably does come across as being bitter but I can assure you I am not jealous. That is kind of the point. I don't think I am above being racist or a snob but i am certainly not some white Knight PC crusader either just because it simplifies people's choices to suggest that must be my position. It is a very binary world now, with very little empathy , more than ever, and it never fails to astound me how willfully misconstrued things are in order to win an argument on the interweb, rather than find some common ground. It's a bit like the higher moral ground immigrants are supposed to inhabit, as though they are not just normal people with the same collection of bastards and good people as the home grown knobs who have been wrecking the country for years.

Sometimes I hate my job, trying to get invoices paid by clients is like trying to squeeze money out of Master , a Jew, a stone. It is a choice, but also one that circumstances dictated, it is hardly special . Loads of self employed on here now the traditional kind of jobs are vanishing and the 'nobody has an excuse not to succeed' and 'if you are poor it's because you live beyond your means' rubbish is going to apply to more and more people if all people are worried about is getting a YouTube fix, refusing to pay for books, music, art etc and the automation of traditional jobs continues

[Dark Lord Al]

You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.

I do not consider anyone who doesn't have a job a peasant , they are peasants.
For the record I'm working class like everyone here except the ones who don't work so are not working class.
Maybe Master is some Bengali Royalty but thats it.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think more people need to lighten up in general.
Everybody likes to play the victim, mostly because they have sad lives.
Nobody here should ever feel they have to justify any part of their lives, however if you live by the sword they you have to die by the sword.
I think thats is a pretty good rule to learn so people dont cry themselves to sleep at night.