Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
You are missing the point Fenster. You can say 'Gas the Jews' 20 times in a row and waste weeks of your life training a dog that is not yours for one lame joke or you can knuckle down and graft and learn your craft. You now have people threatening libel on anyone using 'words' against these YouTube vitrtue virtuals.

My five and seven year old grandsons want to be YouTubers as a job. Fucking hell man. I must have shot 250+ bands before I got to interview who I wanted and spent years mentoring young artists before getting commissioned by the arts Council. Short cut culture is what it is and I do not envy that kind of fame its about the work for me not some gurning vox pop drive for more likes.

That is why 'I wouldn't even rape you' is not satire and dog videos are not the same as fellow jock Boyle mastering the use of the English l as language as a medium as evidenced in his brilliant columns.

I don't agree with censorship which is why I have workefmd for those who have defended these guys but I reserve the right to call a spade a spade that is what free speech means.

It is also why I laughed when Al offered me an apprenticship not because I think I am too good to work in a supermarket or labour on a site, I have done both. Yet when you want to forge your own path and put in the thousands of hours needed to expand your skill set and cv as a freelancer, so you can make a living not having to do such menial boring crap, it gets scorned as though anyone not fitting into a box must be a bullshitter.

Hmmm.. it comes across a bit bitter or jealous (like the journos hunting down Robinson for cringe-worthily claiming he's a journalist) when you claim your own personal work/effort/life choices are more worthy than someone else, with some other interest, having success, or not, in some other field.

How is that much different to AL regarding anyone without a "proper" job and bank full of filthy lucre is a "peasant?"

Or Miles calling 15 million people a lowlife chav for enjoying the X-factor and failing to fall in love with Brett Anderson?

One man's medicine is another man’s poison.

Anyone who believes they will definitely succeed in life as long as they keep "working" is a silly fool. Nobody is special. Nobody "deserves" a fucking thing.
It probably does come across as being bitter but I can assure you I am not jealous. That is kind of the point. I don't think I am above being racist or a snob but i am certainly not some white Knight PC crusader either just because it simplifies people's choices to suggest that must be my position. It is a very binary world now, with very little empathy , more than ever, and it never fails to astound me how willfully misconstrued things are in order to win an argument on the interweb, rather than find some common ground. It's a bit like the higher moral ground immigrants are supposed to inhabit, as though they are not just normal people with the same collection of bastards and good people as the home grown knobs who have been wrecking the country for years.

Sometimes I hate my job, trying to get invoices paid by clients is like trying to squeeze money out of Master , a Jew, a stone. It is a choice, but also one that circumstances dictated, it is hardly special . Loads of self employed on here now the traditional kind of jobs are vanishing and the 'nobody has an excuse not to succeed' and 'if you are poor it's because you live beyond your means' rubbish is going to apply to more and more people if all people are worried about is getting a YouTube fix, refusing to pay for books, music, art etc and the automation of traditional jobs continues