Re: Mike Tyson vs top heavyweights from Ali's era.Who does he win and who does he los
60-67 Clay Ali, particularly 64-67, is GOAT. No HW moved like that before him, so Tyson would be constantly lunging. The Ali that beat Williams, did something Ali post 1970 never did, touch that body. He even threw shots going forward.
He even bobbed under shots, weaved. Post 1970 he laid on the ropes like a dope.
That 64-67 Ali has too much speed, reflexes, movement, upper and lower body, deceptive power that slashed and cut his foes. he could gauge, time and measure Tyson. if Tyson somehow got inside, he'd tie him up.
I remember when a young Tyson stated to his corner "he's holding me" on Smith. Only for Rooney to respond, "don't give me that... I want you bent at the knees back behind a good solid jab and you make him stop holding you."
That small moment showed how skeptical, vulnerable Tyson could be without anyone to goad him into thinking he was great. Ali didn't have that emotional problem.
A year or so ago, Tyson almost in tears again, stated Ali was willing to die in the ring...F that...not me, I never had that in me. The inner being of Ali was immeasurable. His skill and talent could be measured as the apex of what a great HW could do.
Tyson stops Frazier, because he was smaller & wouldn't have the power to keep Mike honest, he's in the eye of the storm. Stops Norton in round 1, like Foreman & Cooney.
Bloodies Bonavena to a TKO. Henry Cooper that dropped Ali, get pummeled in 3-5 rounds. KO's Shavers who couldn't take a punch well. I think his toughest contest would've been Ron Lyle who could punch & take one. If he doesn't stop him in 5 or less, his asthma kicks in and he may get knocked out later rounds.
Not sure about George. George was big & strong, but he never fought a mobile HW, until Young, who outboxed him (whereas Ali in Africa started laying on the ropes-there to be found). Tyson unlike Frazier doesn't just stand in front of George. When Joe bobbed, George landed the upper cuts at will When Joe weaved, George threw lopping haymakers catching him at will.
Tyson was more agile with his movement than Joe was, his footwork some of the best in the biz for HW, bar Ali & Holmes. Someone gets hurt pretty bad in this one, if not both, but I would favor a Prime Tyson over George.
Past it George makes past it Tyson quit.
Last edited by SlimTrae; 05-19-2019 at 03:45 AM.
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