Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

[El Kabong]

I really do not want to offend you but I think it would be quite disingenuous to not disavow you of the many myths that make up a large part of your post. It may be incredibly difficult for you to ever contemplate it but yourself, Gandalf, and Carl's followers and apologists, really are the perpetually outraged that you seem to think anybody not agreeing with you all are.

No worries, I'm not bothered...you have a different opinion. An opinion I'd like to understand how you arrive at, but nevertheless a different opinion. My attempts to understand will involve many questions some of which will be quite simple but do understand I do not wish to demean, I wish to understand the simple way you have gone from point A to point B if for nothing else my own edification

Think about it. You are all not only perpetually outraged, but you actually actively seek out and provoke people in order to justify that outrage. I am not saying you are angry or off your head or mentally ill or constantly walking around with a chip on your shoulder but yourself and Gaydalf do repeatedly start threads expressing that outrage. The way you have framed the entire 'Rape Joke' situation is instructive too. Carl or Tarragon or whatever his name is, at this point in time is most certainly not an elected politician. Everything does not come down to a popularity contest and the very same contempt you are and have constantly and repeatedly show the British electorate with your eagerness to see American interests, and those of the deep state and corporate elites served by fermenting and encouraging violence, and the breakdown of order, to satisfy some weird desire to undo decades of peace and cooperation between Britain and Europe is an expression of that false outrage. Think again about why yourself and Gandalf, neither of whom live or will be affected by Brexit are the biggest advocates of the most extreme and unreasonable version of it.

I suppose I can see this reasoning. I guess I would look outraged, but to whom? About what? Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin are called "fascists" why? What views do they espouse that are actually "fascist"? Do you see 0 patriotism in them? Carl Benjamin is focused on free speech, I can't think of 1 single solitary fascist that would have approved of that stance. Tommy is focused mainly on the rapidly changing culture in England due to mass immigration. Is the culture not rapidly changing? Is there not massive immigration? If all cultures ARE equal and beautiful and brilliant then what of the English culture? Is that not worth protecting? Carl Benjamin isn't a politician elected or otherwise, he'd tell you himself he'd have much rather continued on his life playing videogames but he was singled out by the leftist mob and well you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind

You are indeed both addicted to outrage. Carl obviously is. It is his modus operandi. Do you not think it strange when you and Carl speak about Free speech it is in a way that cheapens and makes the concept worthless? What you are both suggesting is not free speech but the opposite. The shutting down of people's right to reply. Not only that but you are telling people what they should feel. You are not the one being told by people that they hope you are killed by someone pouring molten lava in your vagina. So it is quite hilarious when you then suggest that not only was Carl trolling and encouraging his followers to pile it on, but that you are supposedly in a position to tell someone what 'The correct response ' is. What it really is about is not taking personal responsibility. Carl refuses to apologise and so he has no choice but to pretend that somehow he is the victim in all this.

How so? Provide specifics on how either I or Carl have cheapened the entire concept of free speech. It's quite the accusation to make. Shutting down the right to reply uh what? Who is doing that? How are they doing it? I read that and I'm sorry I don't wish to offend, but it reads like classic projection because it's exactly what Antifa do. I get that Antifa have christened themselves "Anti-Fascist" but they are that in name only, their actions are the actions of a crazed mob. I've suggested better ways to interact with people like Carl because how Jess Philips and the BBC have handled themselves thus far is quite bad when it comes to optics and yes optics do matter. I've not told people how they should feel and even if I did I can't force people to feel feelings can I? I'm of the belief it's rather pointless to weep in the streets about certain things, but hey if they want to do that they are free to do that. You don't think vile things have ever been said to me? You don't think minority conservatives or minorities supporting Brexit don't catch the absolute worst hatred?

Carl is quite clearly a cunt and deserves a lot more than a cup of milkshake over his head but in order to twist reality and make him the victim you have to lie and use the same tactics as the perpetually outraged people you think you are so different from do.

What makes him a cunt? What has he done specifically to draw your ire? What have I lied about? What has he lied about? I'm searching my mind to figure this out. Do I use the same tactics?

The kind of Brexit you want would be incredibly harmful to the average working man and woman in the UK. Gandalf wants this, as does Farage and his sponsor the insurance tycoon Banks. Those pushing for a WTO Brexit want to kneecap Britain. Just like the clueless Americans who supplied money and arms to the IRA and then pretended to be anti-terrorist, you are making the mistake of thinking that to remove the yoke of tyranny you need to use the same violence that extremists the world over from rabid Islamists to Aerican business men intent on maintaining wars in the middle east in the name of profit.

The people voted for Brexit. That is the crux of my stance, how Brexit is ultimately achieved is up for debate but Brexit should be delivered OR the new reality is that you live in a dictatorship where the vote, the voice of the people has been silenced. It's one or the other it cannot be both.

Go and have a look in the Brexit thread and tell me that Yanis idea is not more rational and just.

Tommy is supported (financially and organizationally) by the American Daniel Pipes and The Middle East Forum. I said this years ago but it is worth repeating. This is what Pipes said about Syria

'Western powers should guide enemies to stalemate by helping whichever side is losing, so as to prolong the conflict'


So when you lie and insist that to be antifascist one must be unemployed and not useful in the workforce you let slip your true feelings about expressions of democracy. It is not shocking coming from AL but for you to suggest that anybody who marches against a government bent on removing their human rights and heritage, must have nothing better to do, is a bit worrying.

I hope you can see one day that Tommy does not speak for the majority of Brits, not even the majority of pro-Brexit voters and the Benjamin is a nasty divisive ignorant fool not worthy of a fraction of a fart.

Oh no sir, I don't INSIST that one has to be unemployed to be Antifascist....but Antifa DO use and I mean USE the homeless, runaways etc as part of their violent mobs. It happened during the occupy Wall Street demonstrations and continues to this day. Antifa will pay agitators to rise up against "the man" they are a political army and I say army in the literal sense. If Carl Benjamin is so divisive then I guess you've precious little to worry about him becoming popular then. I don't care if Tommy speaks for the majority of Brexit voters, Brexit is a PART of what Tommy supports not the total.