Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

[Beanz]

@Fenster I am just curious as to why my name has been brought up so many times by one poster over the past 2 pages when I haven't even been posting? Do you think this is rational behavior? I find it very weird.

I have no idea, as i've not read anything for 24 hours, however, i'm pretty certain my investigation will find it's because Beanz loves you. I'll be back.

I am not looking for protection, but just pointing out that he does seem a little infatuated. I posted a few things and deleted them as you would have noticed as I don't want to encourage him too much knowing his mania is in full bloom.

Is violence against individuals really something we should be advocating? My entire stance on this is that we don't egg Jeremy and we don't milkshake others. Normalizing violence is not so good.

'His mania is in full bloom'?

There is nothing manic in my posts and I have never been manic in any form. In fact the only person ever suggesting they were bi-polar or manic depressive and taking drugs to deal with it is you. And yet here you are with the 'he is mad, he is addicted, he is a liar' narrative.

Why are you asking for me to banned again? It's a bit of an odd stance from someone pretending to belive in free speech.

[Gandalf]

@Fenster I am just curious as to why my name has been brought up so many times by one poster over the past 2 pages when I haven't even been posting? Do you think this is rational behavior? I find it very weird.

I have no idea, as i've not read anything for 24 hours, however, i'm pretty certain my investigation will find it's because Beanz loves you. I'll be back.

I am not looking for protection, but just pointing out that he does seem a little infatuated. I posted a few things and deleted them as you would have noticed as I don't want to encourage him too much knowing his mania is in full bloom.

Is violence against individuals really something we should be advocating? My entire stance on this is that we don't egg Jeremy and we don't milkshake others. Normalizing violence is not so good.

'His mania is in full bloom'?

There is nothing manic in my posts and I have never been manic in any form. In fact the only person ever suggesting they were bi-polar or manic depressive and taking drugs to deal with it is you. And yet here you are with the 'he is mad, he is addicted, he is a liar' narrative.

Why are you asking for me to banned again? It's a bit of an odd stance from someone pretending to belive in free speech.

It is a beautiful turn of phrase, isn't it? The post above this one certainly looks, shall we say, 'flamboyant' and 'eccentric'.

Yes, unlike you I will admit to and be open about my issues. I self diagnosed myself having gone through my Van Gogh period and decided that I had to be at the very least mildly eccentric. Little did I know that by changing my lifestyle and tidying my room a little, it would all get a little bit better. Thus I am now nothing more than an occasional insomniac and occasionally, very occasionally I will drink too much, and have the hangover anxiety and remember why I do not do that and thus not do it for another 4 months or what have you. See, open and honest. Nobody had to goad it out of me.

Am I asking for you to be banned again? You keep making things up. I also added the following "I am not looking for protection, but just pointing out that he does seem a little infatuated" which would indicate that banning is not on the agenda. Though it might help you if you see Farage and not Gandalf. Or if you see Benjamin and not Gandalf. Or if you see Al and not Gandalf. Or if you see Lyle and not Gandalf. Or if you see Walrus and not Gandalf. Though undeniably the final two are linked a little like Romeo and Juliet. The Dire Straits version rather than the radical lesbian known as William Shakespeare. Not my words, but the words of a very wild media which can always be trusted.

You see where I am going with this?

[Gandalf]

Okay, not quite as good as saying 'Look at the multiple references to Gandalf in the previous pages' and the post above does contain some good points, but you do keep defending violence against people for doing nothing more than expressing an opinion and as a man who admits to 'losing my job and family' if you meet such a person then you do unfortunately come across as rather 'eccentric'.

Then is your inability to process that ordinary people, mostly working class people, from places not as plummy as your town, want out. It is in one ear and out the other. The notion that the EU can be reformed is absurd. Since when has the EU relented on anything?

Listen to some of the statements PJW compiles in his latest video. You want in because you do not think the British can govern themselves and you clearly have a problem with basically the majority of the UK as most regions outside of London simply don't want to be a part of it.

There is nothing wrong with wanting citizens to be first and to be an individual state that governs itself. You know full well that open borders was never anything the people agreed to. You full well know that.

[Beanz]

Okay, not quite as good as saying 'Look at the multiple references to Gandalf in the previous pages' and the post above does contain some good points, but you do keep defending violence against people for doing nothing more than expressing an opinion and as a man who admits to 'losing my job and family' if you meet such a person then you do unfortunately come across as rather 'eccentric'.

Then is your inability to process that ordinary people, mostly working class people, from places not as plummy as your town, want out. It is in one ear and out the other. The notion that the EU can be reformed is absurd. Since when has the EU relented on anything?

Listen to some of the statements PJW compiles in his latest video. You want in because you do not think the British can govern themselves and you clearly have a problem with basically the majority of the UK as most regions outside of London simply don't want to be a part of it.

There is nothing wrong with wanting citizens to be first and to be an individual state that governs itself. You know full well that open borders was never anything the people agreed to. You full well know that.

This really is just you ranting. Watch the video. I understand you are deluded at best but actually something much more sinister really.

Like your assertion that Corbyn and his labour party are blairites. Red Jezza and comrade Mcdonnell.. Really? Ha! Like your fear of socialism and your insistence that private education and the dismantling of the NHS is what you want in your drive to make the UK a mini me USA.

You have quite publicly backed the MIC and the continuation of constant wars in the middle East with your endorsement of their man Tommy and his mossad backing rhetoric. Like him you are backing the empire based occupation of Ireland and the persecution of Palestinians and genuine refugees all over the world.

You have seen the corruption at the heart of UKIP and ignored it. The elitism of Farrage and his foreign backers and ignored it.

I live work and vote here mate. PJW like you does not. He takes his pieces of silver from those who want to destroy everything that makes Britain what it is and again it seems you endorse that.

You sneer at the UK and its citizens from afar while we all live and work here. Stop trying to make everyone as childish as you are. Why the fuck would anyone waste their time talking to these dicks who are your heroes?

You go and meet them you lazy bastard. You go to work and play on your PlayStation and then want a blue Peter badge for tidying your room. Get a life mate it is pitiful hearing you mistake reading a book for having one.

[Gandalf]

Now I am the one ranting? I am sinister? It isn't me saying I am unable to control myself in a conversation with somebody or saying it is okay to physically assault people.

1. I have never called Corbyn a Blairite. I have said his party is full Blair-esque ideologues. It is one reason he cannot unify his own party and why they periodically want to boot him unless they can get their way. So, again, why do you continually lie like this? Again, I have not called for the privatisation of the NHS or the public school system. Go back and read my response to Master in that thread.

2. Now, go back and tell me when I have supported the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or the dismantling of Libya or Syria? I am against all foreign intervention. In fact Robinson himself claimed the same in a recent interview with a member of the public. However, I am not Tommy Robinson am I? I think you are getting confused about who I am again. I have always argued for a return to the 1967 borders as advocated by Noam Chomsky. I am against the suppression of the Palestinian people. You must remember that I do not agree with all people on all things. I am my own person. Please, stop making things up.

3. UKIP at its present time is on a different path to the Farage era and issues like freedom of expression, anti political correctness, border control, and self determination are what I like. Just as Palestine should be free, so should the UK.

4. It does not matter where you live or work. A British citizen is a British citizen and his voice and opinion is as important as any other British citizen. He certainly has a bigger platform than you or I. He loves his country and if his money comes from opposing what you believe then that is what it is. I am not Paul Joseph Watson. It is the discourse I care about. He did not manufacture EU politicians essentially saying they have always wanted colonies and that they effectively own the UK. In that sense he sounds like a patriot.

5. Oh dear running out of points so resorting to potty mouth and insults. I do not sneer at good people and there are many. I sneer at fools only and there are seemingly many too. It is the way the cookie crumbles. It is you sneering at the people and pretending that their voices do not matter. They had a referendum and all you do is claim that you are right and that they are wrong and thus you won't stop going on about it. I sneer at people assaulting people while you say throw more milkshakes. And I am childish? Says the violent 48 year old who will lose his job and family if he engages with someone who is not part of art collective lefty bubble circuit? Grow up.

6. I would love to meet such people and say thank you for reclaiming national pride after years of put downs. Why do you think people of my generation ended up ashamed of our country? It is because we are taught to hate ourselves be it through parents or the system itself and indoctrination. We do all have potential and can do very well providing we are motivated and guided well.

@Elkabong we have discussed Playstation games. Would you care to tell Beanz how much I play on my PS4? I think he will be disappointed by his projection. I really do only play 2 games a year max and in my vacation time only. Why don't you harangue all the other gamers and readers out there? Didn't you say you were going to pick up RDR2 yourself. Again. Grow up!

All that to defend pretty much nothing at all.

[TIC]

Don't like much of Beanz posts but he is the only other one I see acknowledging Robinsons Mossad Israel Zionist ties

[Master]

Don't like much of Beanz posts but he is the only other one I see acknowledging Robinsons Mossad Israel Zionist ties

Call me naive but I was surprised at that link.

[Beanz]

@Fenster I am just curious as to why my name has been brought up so many times by one poster over the past 2 pages when I haven't even been posting? Do you think this is rational behavior? I find it very weird.

I have no idea, as i've not read anything for 24 hours, however, i'm pretty certain my investigation will find it's because Beanz loves you. I'll be back.

I am not looking for protection, but just pointing out that he does seem a little infatuated. I posted a few things and deleted them as you would have noticed as I don't want to encourage him too much knowing his mania is in full bloom.

Is violence against individuals really something we should be advocating? My entire stance on this is that we don't egg Jeremy and we don't milkshake others. Normalizing violence is not so good.

'His mania is in full bloom'?

There is nothing manic in my posts and I have never been manic in any form. In fact the only person ever suggesting they were bi-polar or manic depressive and taking drugs to deal with it is you. And yet here you are with the 'he is mad, he is addicted, he is a liar' narrative.

Why are you asking for me to banned again? It's a bit of an odd stance from someone pretending to belive in free speech.

It is a beautiful turn of phrase, isn't it? The post above this one certainly looks, shall we say, 'flamboyant' and 'eccentric'.

Yes, unlike you I will admit to and be open about my issues. I self diagnosed myself having gone through my Van Gogh period and decided that I had to be at the very least mildly eccentric. Little did I know that by changing my lifestyle and tidying my room a little, it would all get a little bit better. Thus I am now nothing more than an occasional insomniac and occasionally, very occasionally I will drink too much, and have the hangover anxiety and remember why I do not do that and thus not do it for another 4 months or what have you. See, open and honest. Nobody had to goad it out of me.

Am I asking for you to be banned again? You keep making things up. I also added the following "I am not looking for protection, but just pointing out that he does seem a little infatuated" which would indicate that banning is not on the agenda. Though it might help you if you see Farage and not Gandalf. Or if you see Benjamin and not Gandalf. Or if you see Al and not Gandalf. Or if you see Lyle and not Gandalf. Or if you see Walrus and not Gandalf. Though undeniably the final two are linked a little like Romeo and Juliet. The Dire Straits version rather than the radical lesbian known as William Shakespeare. Not my words, but the words of a very wild media which can always be trusted.

You see where I am going with this?

Not really there is nothing flamboyant or eccentric at all about it. You had and still have it seems too much time on your hands. You even boasted about it. Most normal people do not. You are the most vocal poster on a referendum you never voted in. In a country you do not live in.

[El Kabong]

How is that an example of me not answering any questions or saying you can't comment?it simply isn't and you know it.

Firstly, you didn't answer my questions. Secondly, and I initially chalked this up to my not being able to judge the tone in which you've responded, but you've seemingly returned to your default setting and it comes across as quite rude and dismissive. Here I am wanting a free exchange of ideas back and forth and instead of obliging me and my curiosity you decide to shit all over me...you're too young, you're not from here, you don't read or watch the correct news outlets, and so on...I trusted that you would be true to your word and we'd put all the pettiness behind us. I'm still acting in good faith right now, I'm not personally attacking you, I've put questions to you so that I might glean some information from your answers, but given your responses I don't think I'll bother with it anymore.

I'm not even attempting debate at this point, I'm attempting to understand your side and your side is apparently to dismiss anything and everything that I think and believe but also those things you ASSUME I think and believe.


You missed a golden opportunity to win someone over.



Oh and what's all this then



You older than George Carlin? He was born in 1937...is that too old? Not old enough? Just right? Hmm

[Beanz]

10 days ago so you may have missed it but this is what i mean about you just assuming stuff and not even reading threads so maybe i should not be surprised by you not even reading my replies to your questions.


And yes I comprehensively answered all your questions one by one.

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

George Carlin made a joke about rape when he said you can make a joke of anything

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

George Carlin made a joke about rape when he said you can make a joke of anything

He also said it depends on how you construct the joke. He also said " i've got nothing against the feminists I happen to agree with most of the feminist philosophy I have read. I agree for the most part that men are vain greedy brutal assholes who have just about ruined this planet because they afraid someone might have a bigger dick out there. Men are basically insecure about the size of their dicks and so go to war over it"

He made a lot of points you and most of the people quoting him would rip the piss out of other people for stating.
Benjamin also said he would not be happy if someone said what he did to his own wife.

Benjamin could also not make a joke if his life depended on it. You both have that in common.

Funny Guy

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

George Carlin made a joke about rape when he said you can make a joke of anything

He also said it depends on how you construct the joke. He also said " i've got nothing against the feminists I happen to agree with most of the feminist philosophy I have read. I agree for the most part that men are vain greedy brutal assholes who have just about ruined this planet because they afraid someone might have a bigger dick out there. Men are basically insecure about the size of their dicks and so go to war over it"

He made a lot of points you and most of the people quoting him would rip the piss out of other people for stating.
Benjamin also said he would not be happy if someone said what he did to his own wife.

Benjamin could also not make a joke if his life depended on it. You both have that in common.

Beanz, I was just saying he did a few that’s all it wasn’t an attack on you I’m not really following what is going on here I guess I stepped into something

I didn't think it was an attack on me and neither was I attacking you. Like some french bloke said "You can joke about anything but you can't expect everyone to laugh"


He said it in French of course
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How is that an example of me not answering any questions or saying you can't comment?it simply isn't and you know it.

Firstly, you didn't answer my questions. Secondly, and I initially chalked this up to my not being able to judge the tone in which you've responded, but you've seemingly returned to your default setting and it comes across as quite rude and dismissive. Here I am wanting a free exchange of ideas back and forth and instead of obliging me and my curiosity you decide to shit all over me...you're too young, you're not from here, you don't read or watch the correct news outlets, and so on...I trusted that you would be true to your word and we'd put all the pettiness behind us. I'm still acting in good faith right now, I'm not personally attacking you, I've put questions to you so that I might glean some information from your answers, but given your responses I don't think I'll bother with it anymore.

I'm not even attempting debate at this point, I'm attempting to understand your side and your side is apparently to dismiss anything and everything that I think and believe but also those things you ASSUME I think and believe.


You missed a golden opportunity to win someone over.



Oh and what's all this then



You older than George Carlin? He was born in 1937...is that too old? Not old enough? Just right? Hmm

[El Kabong]

Actually you didn't answer them and I'll go over that more tomorrow.

So I guess you and you alone or you and a couple of other left-leaning people are the folks who decide if a joke is jokey enough to be a joke is that it are you the one that decides that are you the one that decides when a joke is a joke and when one's not a joke is it only if the joke goes with your political views is that it is it like with other art that you like it's got to be part of your political view and something that you agree with in order for it to be acceptable speech is that it?

[Gandalf]

This is an excellent expose of the Greater Manchester Police and what happened in Oldham which the media and police fail to be honest about. To put it into perspective in Cambridge Robinson was thrown out of a pub while watching watching football with his kids for no reason at all except that he might miraculously cause a disturbance. Yet here the police were actually leading hundreds of armed men to a political rally in order to cause a serious ruckus. Interesting optics, right? Now people wonder why I think there might be a problem with 'some' government workers.