Joshua knocked out in sparring and was suffering from concussion?

[Memphis]

It's no ones job here to make excuses for a fighter, that's their job or people they employ. Lets not let that get in the way of further discussion and observation though right? It's kind of what this place is for.

Yes he got beat and beat badly. No one has suggested otherwise. But when you notice things like AJ saying after the opening three minutes, in which nothing actually happened 'What do I do now?' It's worth chewing the fat off no? There was some odd behaviour from the now x champ. It makes for interesting discussion.

[J_Undisputed]

If he was ko'd in sparring prior to this, they need to examine him to see what damage was done. If they want to heal this right he's going to need to be out for a while. Maybe a year plus. The longer the better if he's to continue with his career.

[ykdadamaja]

It's no ones job here to make excuses for a fighter, that's their job or people they employ. Lets not let that get in the way of further discussion and observation though right? It's kind of what this place is for.

Yes he got beat and beat badly. No one has suggested otherwise. But when you notice things like AJ saying after the opening three minutes, in which nothing actually happened 'What do I do now?' It's worth chewing the fat off no? There was some odd behaviour from the now x champ. It makes for interesting discussion.

We also have a right to dismiss heresay or bullshit.

[smashup]

It's no ones job here to make excuses for a fighter, that's their job or people they employ. Lets not let that get in the way of further discussion and observation though right? It's kind of what this place is for.

Yes he got beat and beat badly. No one has suggested otherwise. But when you notice things like AJ saying after the opening three minutes, in which nothing actually happened 'What do I do now?' It's worth chewing the fat off no? There was some odd behaviour from the now x champ. It makes for interesting discussion.

We also have a right to dismiss heresay or bullshit.

How do you think he got a big visible bruise under his left eye which was still visible on fight night?
There's ALOT of clues that there is some truth to this sparring story.

[X]

It's like a lot of big upsets, they look less and less like upsets when you know the story of the build up to the fight.

It was only some time after the biggest upset in heavyweight history that we realised the extent of Tyson's poor training, terrible sparring performances, disintegrating private life and shattered psyche.

Once you know all that, it doesn't really look like an upset at all.

Something goes wrong in every single fight camp, whether it's injury, morale, boredom, training or personal conflicts, so I really doubt there are many 'perfect' camps really.

Joshua certainly looked completely psyched out or spaced out before the fight, and his confusion throughout was noteworthy. He kept asking what Ruiz would do next in his corner and could not remember what shots he had been hit by. That sort of sounds like a guy who already had a concussion.

If that's the case, somebody should go to jail.

On the other hand, remember when some overhyped guys like Duane Bobick, Audley Harrison and Primo Carnera suffered devastating defeats ........

Lets also not forget Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong 🤔

Only time will tell which camp AJ falls into.

[Spicoli]

Rumour going around that his socks were to tight and he stubbed his big toe on his way into the ring as well.

[X]

Rumour going around that his socks were to tight and he stubbed his big toe on his way into the ring as well.

Well, that's a great excuse. We all know how devastating a toe injury can be

And that was only his little toe!

[smashup]

Ive heard the curse of Drake is to blame as well.
Google it 😁

[palmerq]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/ant...035347706.html


Also I'm pretty sure it was David Hayes little toe that prevented him from becoming the unified champ :S

[imp]

AJ knocked Ruiz down and everyone expected it to be a 3 round KO and AJ to get on the microphone afterwards and bait Wilder.

Ruiz took his best shot, hit the canvas and said in his mind that he was not going out like this..he stood up and both men fought in the centre of the ring..Ruiz was more accurate and connected..Ruiz fought to win this fight and was the better man on the night.

No excuses.