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    Default Re: Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post

    The LGBTQ community will have more rights & protection under the law than blacks. It boggles my mind how a sexual orientation and lifestyle is even considered but are mostly successful in getting civil rights before a race of people brought here against there will, brutalized, tortured, exploited and forced to build the very economy of this country for free.




    You remember this Jurassic Park III scene? Where Dr. Grant has to dig through a huge pile of dinosaur dung in order to get to something useful? His phone? Remember?

    Well.... likewise I find myself digging through your gigantic pile of verbal dung, just in case there's something of use in there.



    Now, if you were a coherent, logical, mature, open-minded black person...... even an angry, resentful one....... I would chime in, saying how I agree (my thoughts on the LGBTQ movement are well chronicled here) with your basic principle.

    But I won't. You know why? Because you've fucked up that point for good. It's why I maintain you do a serious disservice to the cause of the black man in America.

    Thank God you are in a very minute minority. 'Cause if the majority thought like you, there would've been a mass extermination by one race or another by now.


    But I'll go ahead and state my own opinions about the "cell phone I had to dig through tons of verbal crap to retrieve"........ and here's my disclaimer up front:

    I couldn't give less of a rat's ass what your twisted mind thinks about what I have to say. You've automatically disqualified yourself from any "serious, honest" (your words) discussions about race.

    Having said that, (and addressing everyone else but you)........... it IS sad that the LGBTQXYZ activists are continuing to ram their agenda down society's collective throat (unfortunate choice of words, I'll admit).

    What took black people (AND women) long decades to sort of achieve, these people are trying to achieve in a comparative nanosecond.

    PLUS........ blacks are born blacks and women are born women. Transgenders have a mental sickness that should be humanely addressed. I DIDN'T MENTION GAYS, Fenster.



    So there. Those are my two cents.

    Cue Denilson to spew more verbal dinosaur dung, and Fenster to come rushing in to incorrectly assume I want to kill all gays.
    I'm not gonna get into a debate about LGTB ppl as they don't concern me. Also don't talk to me about women either.

    My focus is only on black people

    The truth of statements, and soundness of arguments, do not change just because you like or dislike the person that said it. That's a core principle of critical thinking: the goal is to determine what is true, not what is merely persuasive. When come with insults, you are letting me know that you’re out of relevant arguments. Your ad hominem arguments are essentially an admission that you have no rational defence to your position, in a way they are you attempt at a draw.

    If I make a statement (“All dogs have four legs.”) and you attack me as a dog hater or "immature" that doesn’t have any influence on my statement.

    Debating with someone like me is not a rap battle where the goal is to belittle and insult the opponent. This is a contest where the winner is chosen by the merits of his argument alone.
    Last edited by Denilson-The-Comeback; 07-05-2019 at 02:19 PM.

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    Default Re: Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

    Meh...... no nuggets in that post. I'll wait for the next one.

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    Default Re: Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Meh...... no nuggets in that post. I'll wait for the next one.
    It's simple. The past and present and future of black ppl concern me the most and in that history white ppl have been the main evil. That's how it is. I don't feel for white people the way you do and I'm sure you don't feel for black people like I do. As long as that's understood

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    I sense you calming down and attempting to make some sense here. That does nothing for my "Denilson nuggets of wisdom collection" but ok.

    You'll always feel the way you do, although I'd venture to say somewhere along the line you'll have a change of heart. Maybe...... maybe not.

    Good luck on all that. IMO, it's not healthy to think in such absolute terms, but you're your own man. You've made up your own mind.

    Strange though, that you've never met (in person, I mean) a white person who has convinced you that your extremism is unwarranted.

    It's ok to be angry at racism. It's not ok to adjudicate it to every person on Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I sense you calming down and attempting to make some sense here.
    You're the emotional one. Not me. You are the one who does not have the intelligence so has to resort to insults. I've debated with tons of white supremacist. I know how you think. I know what you are going to say. I know what's in your heart. I know how your gonna respond. i know you dude. i know you.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    You'll always feel the way you do, although I'd venture to say somewhere along the line you'll have a change of heart. Maybe...... maybe not.
    What are you telling me this ?

    Go and tell that to white people. Go and tell them to change their heart. Your mom, father, friends. Go and challenge the racism you hear all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Strange though, that you've never met (in person, I mean) a white person who has convinced you that your extremism is unwarranted.
    I don't need to meet you in person. What ? Because you are polite ?

    Most white people are polite. That doesn't throw me.

    Racism is not an angry thing. It's not emotional for the most part. It's a system. Just this week there was a white women who went over to Africa (Uganda) and killed 100 kids. She was polite. She was nice on the front end. But she was a white supremacist on the back end and she's chilling and she won't be punished

    You let black Nigerian go to Germany, France, Spain. Argentina and kill 100 white kids.

    You'd never hear the end of it. Trump would tweeting about 24-7. Nigeria would be sanctioned to death. There'll be all kinds of punishments. But that's white supremacy. Whites can kill black people and as long as they get their lie straight, they'll be ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    It's ok to be angry at racism. It's not ok to adjudicate it to every person on Earth.
    You keep on trying to make this an emotional thing and that's a racial stereotype in itself. You show you racism every type you type in the way you think that black ppl do not think in terms of facts and reasons. Black ppl just get angry and stamp their feet like a child, expecting the whole world to stop and listen to them. Black ppl cannot think ahead and making poor decisions – and then blame others for their mess! Their hatred and anger further clouds their judgement.

    This is how you think. I know you think "I'm angry" "I'm angry" even though you the one doing the insulting.

    Last edited by Denilson-The-Comeback; 07-05-2019 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I sense you calming down and attempting to make some sense here.
    You're the emotional one. Not me. You are the one who does not have the intelligence so has to resort to insults. I've debated with tons of white supremacist. I know how you think. I know what you are going to say. I know what's in your heart. I know your gonna respond. i know you dude. i know you.

    Now you're talking! The verbal bullshit meter is cranking up again. Keep it coming bro..... some more nuggets are bound to surface.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    You'll always feel the way you do, although I'd venture to say somewhere along the line you'll have a change of heart. Maybe...... maybe not.
    As long as the system of

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Strange though, that you've never met (in person, I mean) a white person who has convinced you that your extremism is unwarranted.
    I don't need to meet you in person. What ? Because you are polite ?

    I said "a white person". Wasn't talking about me. I don't do charity psycho ward patient work. You need to work on that reading comprehension problem.

    Most white people are polite. That doesn't throw me.

    This is pretty close to a nugget of wisdom, but I've raised my standards. You can do better than that.

    Racism is not an angry thing. It's not emotional for the most part. It's a system. Just this week there was a white women who went over to Africa (Uganda) and killed 100 kids. She was polite. She was nice on the front end. But she was a white supremacist on the back end and she's chilling and she won't be punished

    You let black Nigerian go to Germany, France, Spain. Argentina and kill 100 white kids.

    You'd never hear the end of it. Trump would tweeting about 24-7. Nigeria would be sanctioned to death. There'll be all kinds of punishments. But that's white supremacy. Whites can kill black people and as long as they get their lie straight, they'll be ok.

    Meh..... nothing new here. You're not supplying me enough of your hysterical pronouncements lately. It's ok, I'll wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    It's ok to be angry at racism. It's not ok to adjudicate it to every person on Earth.
    You keep on trying to make this an emotional thing

    "I'm angry" "I'm angry"

    You are the one doing the insulting. Not me


    If you hadn't noticed, I tend to switch over from trying to reason with you as a human being, to ridiculing you because I see the futility in trying to do so. The ridiculing part is fun....... the reasoning attempts have become tedious a long time ago. This leads to boredom..... and I'm not one to sustain conversations in which I've already been bored to death. You'll have to step up your game, if I am expected to allow you to keep entertaining us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    If you hadn't noticed, I tend to switch over from trying to reason with you as a human being, to ridiculing you because I see the futility in trying to do so.
    You simply cannot muster an effective refutation of my argument based upon logic and facts; and then, being either overcome with emotion as you cleave to your refuted argument, or being untutored in the fact that personal attacks during a logical argument diminish the standing of your own position.

    But many internet arguments have nothing to do with facts, but a lot to do with raising or protecting one’s social status.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post

    The ridiculing part is fun.
    Of course that's point of racism. Racism is fun. Harming black ppl is fun for the white supremacist.

    A white supremacist bar owner in Texas put up a racist sign with the word N*GGER. When customers complained and exposed this, the owner claimed “it was a joke”. White supremacists ALWAYS try to hide their racism behind “jokes”




    White supremacists are always using deceptive talking points i.e "jokes", "gun control", "suspicious person", "Chicago gun violence", "fear for my life", "trespassing", etc. to mask their intent, which is to subjugate, terrorize, brutalize and kill Black people.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    the reasoning attempts have become tedious a long time ago.
    What's reasonable to the wolf is not going to be reasonable to the sheep. What's reasonable to the fox is not going to be reasonable to the hound

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post

    This leads to boredom..... and I'm not one to sustain conversations in which I've already been bored to death.
    Well you are the one who starts these racialized topics. Not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post

    You'll have to step up your game, if I am expected to allow you to keep entertaining us.
    White people have always been willing to let black people entertain them.

    Even at the height of racism, you still had your Muhammad Ali’s, Jim Brown’s, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson’s, Eusebio’s, Pele’s and Hank Aaron’s.
    Hell when Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth’s home run record. He broke a record for receiving almost a million letters of hate mail from white supremacists all over the US who were upset about a Black man beating Ruth’s record.





    Even to this day



    But the real question is - How have they felt about blacks being their bankers, doctors, bosses, colleagues, neighbors?

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