Your favourite underdog

[Gandalf]

Venus Williams is nearly 40. It's a bit like Joshua and Klitschko, good timing. However, she obviously has potential. With womens tennis they can be very up and down. Only Serena has been a bit like the male top 3 in that she is always there. Murray too, but he lost his hip and is now doing a Darth Vader.

[Master]

Can anyone remember Chang when he beat Lendal at the French Open and did the underarm serve? He was 15 and was shattered in the match but won.