Wilder - "Mike Tyson never beat anyone. Disagree? You know shit about boxing"

[Master]

How long would Wilder last against Mike Tyson?

[J_Undisputed]

Lets keep in mind that he was also a shell of himself when he fought Holyfield and Lennox. No head movement, no trainer that knew his system and was doing hard drugs most of that time and looking for a way out.

He didn't get popped for weed while driving around and buzzed by a flabby frenchman, or chubby heavyweight while enjoying a 4-7+ inch reach advantage and flailing cuffs. Easy to talk trash when your in an era of subpar heavyweights.

[powerpuncher]

Lets keep in mind that he was also a shell of himself when he fought Holyfield and Lennox. No head movement, no trainer that knew his system and was doing hard drugs most of that time and looking for a way out.

He didn't get popped for weed while driving around and buzzed by a flabby frenchman, or chubby heavyweight while enjoying a 4-7+ inch reach advantage and flailing cuffs. Easy to talk trash when your in an era of subpar heavyweights.

While this may be true, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he made bad choices and lost fights because of it.

[J_Undisputed]

Lets keep in mind that he was also a shell of himself when he fought Holyfield and Lennox. No head movement, no trainer that knew his system and was doing hard drugs most of that time and looking for a way out.

He didn't get popped for weed while driving around and buzzed by a flabby frenchman, or chubby heavyweight while enjoying a 4-7+ inch reach advantage and flailing cuffs. Easy to talk trash when your in an era of subpar heavyweights.

While this may be true, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he made bad choices and lost fights because of it.

Oh i'm not saying mikes not at fault or didn't lose to those fighters. Its already been disproved above that the statement that he never fought anyone is beyond ridiculous. For wilder to be beating up mascots and making ridiculous statements like that only shows how delusional he is about the impact of wins over ortiz and a returning fury. What round does unified tyson take out Ortiz? or even get hit by Fury? At the same time does wilder make it past ruddock, or most of the guys that finished the fights with Tyson on their feet? I'm not even sure he beats holmes.

[Spicoli]

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

[El Kabong]

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

Meeeeeeh


I think Paul Ruebens (PeeWee) is actually a good actor See him as Derek Foreal in Blow) DeNiro is kind of a one note Johnny now'a'days "Aye look at me, I'm an Italian tough guy, fuggedaboutit"

[Spicoli]

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

Meeeeeeh


I think Paul Ruebens (PeeWee) is actually a good actor See him as Derek Foreal in Blow) DeNiro is kind of a one note Johnny now'a'days "Aye look at me, I'm an Italian tough guy, fuggedaboutit"

We all know you just despise his politics don't over think an analogy . They don't compare role wise.

But have to ask for all the stick Tyson gets for beating a washed up Holmes...isn't this the same washed up Holmes who came back to compete with and beat a top heavyweight at the time. What's with the disrespect and throwing shade from these young heavies today. First AJ and now Wilder fresh off a draw he lost ffs hating on legends. It's delusional.

[El Kabong]

We all know you just despise his politics don't over think an analogy . They don't compare role wise.

But have to ask for all the stick Tyson gets for beating a washed up Holmes...isn't this the same washed up Holmes who came back to compete with and beat a top heavyweight at the time. What's with the disrespect and throwing shade from these young heavies today. First AJ and now Wilder fresh off a draw he lost ffs hating on legends. It's delusional.

Actors, artists, whoever if their work is more than them jamming their politics down your throat I'm good with it. I don't mind DeNiro at all, I think like Pacino when he was younger he was more versatile as an actor Christopher Walken too...I like all those guys work. I think right now DeNiro is just his name recognition and the "I'm a grumpy Italian wiseguy" schtick.


I'll also take this time to remind you....all Wlad ever did was show respect and class



Heavyweights today are just insecure, they feel they need to big up themselves to get more eyes on them. Do it in the ring and the eyes will follow.

[Primo Carnera]

People can critique Tyson’s career. But Wilder has beaten literally NOBODY! When he was World Champion, he was calling out a novice called Joshua! Not even British champion at the time.
When Tyson was World Champion, I can’t remember him calling out Gary Mason ffs.
Give Tyson 6 months focused training and he’d fucking beat Wilder now!

[Mark TKO]

Tyson beat some great fighters but never overcame adversity in the ring to pull off a win. I'm trying to think of another multiple defence heavyweight champ I can say that about?

Ruddock fights are only ones I can think of that came close to that - he won but things weren't all going his way during the fight, was never in any trouble mind. Hell of a long time since I've seen those fights mind.

[Ron Swanson]

People can critique Tyson’s career. But Wilder has beaten literally NOBODY! When he was World Champion, he was calling out a novice called Joshua! Not even British champion at the time.
When Tyson was World Champion, I can’t remember him calling out Gary Mason ffs.
Give Tyson 6 months focused training and he’d fucking beat Wilder now!

Sure he would. Can never have an honest conversation about Mike Tyson,,, the focused Zab of the heavyweight division.
(Not saying the conversation is dishonest because of you, saying every Mike Tyson conversation is dishonest. I appreciate it though, I won a LOT money on people thinking Tyson was something he wasn’t. Great athlete, fragile fragile man)