The Brexit Thread

**Beanz** · 09-18-2019 04:37 PM

GANDALF

Britain does operate on a state level, but if it were not for several EU interventions we would be far worse off. Workers rights, the environment, Food safety and Quality etc. You seem to be suggesting that your rabid night time fantasies of an EU Fascist State ordering the Tories to privatise everything is a fact. It isn't. It is just another mealy mouth apology from a cowardly cunt that cannot bring himself to admit he turned his back on his own country years ago. I live here mate. I contribute to this country and brought my family up here. It wasn't the EU that sold off the housing stock or cut police numbers or started to privatise the NHS that was your crew. The people even now you are actively endorsing as they smash our country up and divide the spoils among themselves.

The tyranny of the majority is what El Kabong said not me. This is what I mean about you being a lying cunt. Go back to the opening post in this thread that I started and tell me where i said that I did not respect the will of the people. I have never said that. You are forced to invent that position to justify your extremist stance.

Nobody forced you to leave this country as an economic migrant. Nobody is forcing you to live alone in a city away from your wife so that you only have to work half days. You have this massive bee in your bonnet with anyone who does what you either cannot or choose not to do. That is your problem. I have certainly done my fair share of manual and unskilled jobs in my working life but I am not about to apologise for not doing them now as I approach my 50's. I didn't win the lottery mate, I worked hard to do what I do. Why would I choose to work as a cashier when i earn what they do in a day in an hour? That would be daft. It does not mean I look down on people who do any kind of job, that is your invention, a way to make yourself feel superior. The same as the race thing which poisons your entire outlook. You think you are better than people based on where two of their grandparents were born? or more British? you are an insecure joke mate.
You want to claim that I am both a traitor to Britain for suggesting that there is nothing wrong with immigrant and homogenized communities living alongside each other and then at the same time claim I have no experience of helping immigrants to integrate or interacting with people of different ethnicies. You even claimed that me having an Asian step mother for 30+ years didn't count as knowing anything about Asians

Here you are lecturing me again for the hundredth time about how culture matters whilst living in South Korea. Lecturing me about how communities matter...from South Korea. You are now even joining El Kabong in suggesting that I am somehow self loathing for celebrating, documenting and even helping to preserve, archive, fund raise on behalf of British culture and British history and British Art and British Music and the indigenous languages of Britain and British Theatre ...from yes...you guessed it ..South Korea.

It is insane how you think your new religion of social conservatism means fuck all when you do not practice a word you preach.

I fucking love not only my country but all the communities and individuals that make it what it is. I don't need the permission of two opinionated twats on a forum to feel good about where I live that is why I live here. Stop slagging our country off. If you don't recognise it or respect it just like you have dissed Sweden and everywhere else you do not think follows your PERSONAL rules then fuck off and stay where you are. I am pretty sure neither country would miss anyone so negative and dismissive of it's achievements and living history.

The world does not stop just because you pair want to wrap everything in moth balls.

You are a pair of slipper wearing old farts.

You need to get out more.

**Kirkland Laing** · 09-18-2019 05:39 PM

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Boris Johnson’s nightmare in Luxembourg was more than just a public embarrassment delivered at the hands of the Grand Duchy’s Xavier Bettel.

The FT on Wednesday morning reports on a chastening encounter over lunch between Mr Johnson, Michel Barnier and Jean-Claude Juncker, which one official described as a “penny dropping” moment for the prime minister over what it really means to replace the Irish backstop.

According to an account of the meeting, the prime minister was told by his EU counterparts in no uncertain terms that the UK’s plan to replace the backstop by allowing Northern Ireland to stick to common EU rules on food and livestock (known as SPS) was not enough to prevent customs checks on the vast majority of goods that cross the Irish border.

At that point, a befuddled Mr Johnson turned to David Frost, his chief negotiator, and Stephen Barclay, Brexit secretary, and said: “So you’re telling me the SPS plan doesn’t solve the customs problem?”
Luxembourg's Prime Minister Xavier Bettel gestures during a news conference after his meeting with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in Luxembourg, September 16, 2019. REUTERS/Yves Herman

The exchange, according to one EU official, was part of an abrupt “learning curve” for Mr Johnson in his first face-to-face meeting with Mr Barnier and Mr Juncker since he took office.

Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.

Mr Juncker told his college of commissioners in Strasbourg on Tuesday that the Luxembourg lunch was the first time that “Boris Johnson understood the meaning of the single market”.

**Kirkland Laing** · 09-18-2019 05:44 PM

Boris has no idea what he's doing. It's like Trump promising universal healthcare that will be much better than Obamacare and then when he actually has to come up with something saying who knew healthcare could be so complicated.

**Gandalf** · 09-18-2019 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Beanz

GANDALF

Britain does operate on a state level, but if it were not for several EU interventions we would be far worse off. Workers rights, the environment, Food safety and Quality etc. You seem to be suggesting that your rabid night time fantasies of an EU Fascist State ordering the Tories to privatise everything is a fact. It isn't. It is just another mealy mouth apology from a cowardly cunt that cannot bring himself to admit he turned his back on his own country years ago. I live here mate. I contribute to this country and brought my family up here. It wasn't the EU that sold off the housing stock or cut police numbers or started to privatise the NHS that was your crew. The people even now you are actively endorsing as they smash our country up and divide the spoils among themselves.

The tyranny of the majority is what El Kabong said not me. This is what I mean about you being a lying cunt. Go back to the opening post in this thread that I started and tell me where i said that I did not respect the will of the people. I have never said that. You are forced to invent that position to justify your extremist stance.

Nobody forced you to leave this country as an economic migrant. Nobody is forcing you to live alone in a city away from your wife so that you only have to work half days. You have this massive bee in your bonnet with anyone who does what you either cannot or choose not to do. That is your problem. I have certainly done my fair share of manual and unskilled jobs in my working life but I am not about to apologise for not doing them now as I approach my 50's. I didn't win the lottery mate, I worked hard to do what I do. Why would I choose to work as a cashier when i earn what they do in a day in an hour? That would be daft. It does not mean I look down on people who do any kind of job, that is your invention, a way to make yourself feel superior. The same as the race thing which poisons your entire outlook. You think you are better than people based on where two of their grandparents were born? or more British? you are an insecure joke mate.
You want to claim that I am both a traitor to Britain for suggesting that there is nothing wrong with immigrant and homogenized communities living alongside each other and then at the same time claim I have no experience of helping immigrants to integrate or interacting with people of different ethnicies. You even claimed that me having an Asian step mother for 30+ years didn't count as knowing anything about Asians

Here you are lecturing me again for the hundredth time about how culture matters whilst living in South Korea. Lecturing me about how communities matter...from South Korea. You are now even joining El Kabong in suggesting that I am somehow self loathing for celebrating, documenting and even helping to preserve, archive, fund raise on behalf of British culture and British history and British Art and British Music and the indigenous languages of Britain and British Theatre ...from yes...you guessed it ..South Korea.

It is insane how you think your new religion of social conservatism means fuck all when you do not practice a word you preach.

I fucking love not only my country but all the communities and individuals that make it what it is. I don't need the permission of two opinionated twats on a forum to feel good about where I live that is why I live here. Stop slagging our country off. If you don't recognise it or respect it just like you have dissed Sweden and everywhere else you do not think follows your PERSONAL rules then fuck off and stay where you are. I am pretty sure neither country would miss anyone so negative and dismissive of it's achievements and living history.

The world does not stop just because you pair want to wrap everything in moth balls.

You are a pair of slipper wearing old farts.

You need to get out more.

If you love your country you would not have voted for the EU and continue to make excuses for staying in it and lie about the EU dictating what the British can and cannot do. The British people never voted on that. The referendum was the first time a voice was given and they spoke. I respect democracy. The last time I went to Europe I needed a passport and it really wasn't very complicated. Did the people have a choice in opening borders etc? No.

As for your bollocks about racism. Fuck off. There is nothing racist about facts or not wanting societies to be needlessly transformed. You hate this topic because you are losing and crapping yourself. And frankly I say good as I have been insulted quite enough. I could very easily get very nasty with you you fetid viper but I do actually hold my tongue all things considered. Look at the way you are going on above. I won't be lectured to by an autistic fuck with a single Mum fetish who only a few years was selling his things because he refused to get a job like a normal man. Not having that.

The only person I will laugh at running out of medicine is you as you are hilarious off of it. I will stand in solidarity with Lyle and abstain from the Viper's Nest. Truth is private correspondence is free of the Lol and is a far more wholesome place. I hereby state my case for leave too.

Walrus, the floor is yours. Order, order, order. There is treason in the house.

**Gandalf** · 09-18-2019 11:25 PM

My name is Jeremy Corbyn. I have decided to stay after all following immense pressure from a bunch of backstabbing bastards. Now let's have a new forum poll on this topic: Stay or Go. And then ignore the outcome and bicker and stay some more.

Antifa, Antifa, my name is Beanz and I like Antifa! The Clash! The Clash! Public school boy punk! Raaargh! I am not 17 at all. Skinheads. Ska. 1981! Raaargh!

Beanz: You are all Trustafarians, Nazi's, and stiffs and want to stop 'progress'.

Gandalf: So send all the progress to Plymouth! All of it there! Or bugger off to Europe!

Case solved.

**walrus** · 09-19-2019 12:25 AM

I don’t say to much on Brexit other than the people spoke. Hedge funds would be looking to gain on this from any angle. IMO England never should have joined the EU to begin with. They should have just become our 51st state as beanz says or stay independent