Munguia beats up another little fighter

[Spicoli]

Crystal Ball Dept.:

Munguia will continue to be fed smaller fighters to get his record nice and bloated. The public will look at the W's and L's and clamor for a fight between the Mexican deity and the young, undefeated Mexican up-and-comer. A suitable site will be found for a "Cinco de Mayo" mega-brawl. It'll be ridiculously hyped with all the superlatives known to man. The deity will win and will say to his vanquished opponent... "patience, young grasshopper... patience." The fight itself will break PPV records.

First the Bedazzled red speckled Diva will demand he fatten up to 175 and agree to a cw of 172.1/4. Munguia seems like a nice kid but they're doing him zero favors going to school on soft touches..as champion ffs .

Soft touches? I thought you was all for champions defending against "deserved" ranked contenders? The guys in line? The guys who work their way up the ratings? The no.1, 3, 5, 6, 9? Munguia's five defences have all been top rated WBO challengers. Isn't that the "old fashioned" way you prefer?

Mate the alphabet boys might as well be using a hand full of spaghetti when compiling rankings . I was talking The Ring and the first run for Loma . Only time I'll play in the rabbit hole of trinket ranks is answering your question and pointing out the guys higher could-should have had claim to another 'contender' first..leading to trinket try..rather than a fella with -0- pro starts. But on Munguia it's the fact he's on a 5th defense banking a million screams that he should be facing someone where the pre consensus isn't 'what round does he fall over'. Fair credit for Liam Smith who was-is a bonified challenger and had to withdraw from his chance at Alis trinket and got first crack. Also thoroughly exposed the defensive flaws of Munguia. Inoue was a hard durable nail. And Hogan..well he was on the end of a screw job down in Mee-he-co v Munguia. Oscar and Company talked up a uuuge rematch possibility, Munguia thought it was a draw but rather than a stiff test..and rematch they opted for another predictable showcase aka soft touch.

[Fenster]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

[Spicoli]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

[Fenster]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

Sorry, no worries, I thought you missed my point because I badly explained it, that's all, but we're not even on the same page. I make myself dizzy

[Spicoli]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

Sorry, no worries, I thought you missed my point because I badly explained it, that's all, but we're not even on the same page. I make myself dizzy

No worries indeed man I badly explain shat all the time. Dizziness comes easy when trying to make sense of these crooked feckers. And Saturday booze. That does it too.

[TIC]

so munguia's steps up to middle against o'sullivan. safe enough with hogan already tied up. adames vs teixeira for the vacant title?

[powerpuncher]

Too bad O’Sullivan wasn’t a little younger because it would be a fun fight. It may still be since Munguia is moving up

[Spicoli]

so munguia's steps up to middle against o'sullivan. safe enough with hogan already tied up. adames vs teixeira for the vacant title?

Looks like it, Adames feels like the real deal but have to wonder where he's at with bit of a quick turn given the tragedy with Day last out.