Munguia beats up another little fighter

[Spicoli]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

[Fenster]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

Sorry, no worries, I thought you missed my point because I badly explained it, that's all, but we're not even on the same page. I make myself dizzy

[Spicoli]

@Spicoli - Your problem with Loma is, he was gifted a WBO shot in his 2nd fight when there were more "worthy" and "deserving" contenders, right? You said the guys who "earnt" their shot. However, you're now saying "not the WBO top ranked contenders, The Ring ratings."

I said - it's one of four belts, it's not the days of one champion, right? Four belts with four completely different rankings (so guys rated by the WBC are different to the WBO etc).

I fully understand the alphabet rankings are nonsense, that's the whole point I was making.

So give me an example of a current "world" champion who beat 6 or 7 independently rated (The Ring top 10) "contenders" before getting an alphabet shot?

Honestly dude you have me dizzy with that and why we're back to Loma in a Munguia thread beats me. You were the one initially going on about "15 championship level fighters" this and that. I don't recall talking about "earnt" "worthy" or "deserving" or trying to legitimize those alphabet contenders other than replying that the alphabet group saw fit to have guys ranked higher than the fella Loma squashed but it resulted in him getting the immediate 1-0 title fight and shines a light on the entire system we all know is crooked and stacked. He jumped over 5,6 guys into a title fight..Munguia is an established trinket holder. It's apples and oranges. But cans are cans. These groups count on putting a few in the mix so they keep 'the next stars' fed and showcased. I mentioned only the Ring ranks from the get go as legit and how (Russell Jr) was unranked there when Loma got his immediate title do over after losing to Salido. Not sure where beating 6-7 Ring contenders before a title fight comes in and not sure such a fighter with that many exists.

Sorry, no worries, I thought you missed my point because I badly explained it, that's all, but we're not even on the same page. I make myself dizzy

No worries indeed man I badly explain shat all the time. Dizziness comes easy when trying to make sense of these crooked feckers. And Saturday booze. That does it too.

[TIC]

so munguia's steps up to middle against o'sullivan. safe enough with hogan already tied up. adames vs teixeira for the vacant title?

[powerpuncher]

Too bad O’Sullivan wasn’t a little younger because it would be a fun fight. It may still be since Munguia is moving up

[Spicoli]

I just don't see Munguia a great deal at the very top of 160 and Spike should be a safe bet at this point to let him get his feet wet. Odd really, more often than not you see a reigning wbo trinket holder ushered right into a top spot when they go up a division but not sure Spike even cracks their top 20 today.

[Spicoli]

so munguia's steps up to middle against o'sullivan. safe enough with hogan already tied up. adames vs teixeira for the vacant title?

Looks like it, Adames feels like the real deal but have to wonder where he's at with bit of a quick turn given the tragedy with Day last out.