Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
Basically your lack of an argument Gandalf boils down to.

'My name is Gandalf and I have no interest in what anyone else thinks or has to say. What I feel takes precedence over facts. Everyone has to take notice of me. I have read stuff and watched youtube so my opinion Trumps all, but personal direct experience is irrelevant unless it is mine. Anyone who disagrees with me is a mentally ill druggy and lazy layabout liar who can be dismissed. I am much more interested in identity politics than conversing or debating with individuals and so I will not only dismiss entire groups based on what some loser on YouTube tells me to, I will also project that attitude onto those I see as my enemies and invent their position rather than listen to them or read what they have typed. It is intolerable to be expected to consider anyone else's opinion or direct personal experience and answering questions or debating is a no no for me. I am Gandalf and my views are superior because I am superior. '
Not really. I am just an ordinary bloke, but then if I say that you will say I am not an ordinary bloke. Then if I say that I am not an ordinary bloke, then you will say I am very ordinary and boring. It doesn't really matter.

All I have put forward is that I think nation states are the best way to operate. Nation states make up most countries in the world. It means they can make their own decisions and if democratic hold their elite to account better. It is that simple. It has nothing to do with how superior I am or am not. It is just my view that nation states work better. Greece now knows this. Hong Kong will learn this. And Ireland preferred this before strangely giving up on independence to go all EU mad.

You don't seem to have any faith in your country whence voting to remain. Your argument has been had, you made your point. Yet the people disagreed with you and so out you go. I don't really see what there is to debate and plus you think my voice is meaningless because I didn't vote and am a mad racist who doesn't live there. So why would you even want to debate with me?

I have said that I don't want anything to happen to your common law wife or anyone else for that matter. I just think your arguments lately have all been about common law father in law and his holiday home, the half siblings in Europe and medicine. I am not sure they are serious things to worry about. Why not holiday in Cambodia or whatever. I am sure it would save him more money, but no doubt get him stared at by the 'racists' (curious people) there.

I happen to agree with you that the NHS is not up for sale, but the main thing here is sovereignty. Once that is obtained, then the NHS would no doubt unify everyone and you can bring down a government that goes bonkers very quickly. The only weakness is apathy. It is one reason why I love politics out here actually. They genuinely bring governments down and it couldn't happen in an Asian Superstate. It just couldn't happen.