Logan Paul vs KSI

[Primo Carnera]

So it’s official, Billy Joe Saunders is defending his “Title” on the undercard. Haha, I don’t fucking care how famous these 2 are and how much attention it attracts, to fight on their undercard is a new low for BJS!
Now I would love to see Dereck Chisora on the undercard and see whaT he had to say at the presser!

Chisora can not say anything to them, they are the A side fighters.

Eddie said they will not wear head guards and will have small gloves on.

Interesting, he can’t talk when he is the draw and he can’t talk when he isn’t the draw. Perhaps you will tell him when he can talk, Master.

I don’t think that problem was as much Chisora’s as it was the fans. The real problem is that Chisora is a draw when Prograis and Taylor should be.

The whole Chisora storm was staged and contrived for maximum publicity. Rather than publicly denigrate 2 world class fighters he should have taken it up with Eddie/sky privately if he was serious.

Come on, let’s put this “Chisora is a big draw” nonsense to sleep right here , right now.
He’s not a big draw.....but he has a big mouth! Chisora v Parker is not PPV Worthy. So put a decent world title unification on the bill that is handy for all concerned , and let Chisora do what he does best....Let rip!
I can’t remember a clamour for him to be ppv when Fury embarrassed him in their second fight.
Fuck , he fought Vitali for a World title and that wasn’t ppv, and when he had to go to Europe to get ko’d By Kayabel (?) in order to avoid getting beat by a novice robot that is Joe Joyce, I don’t remember any ppv talk.
So are you telling me he is now a big drawer because of a couple of pub brawls with Dillian Whyte? Ffs, come on, please stop with all this horseshit.

[palmerq]

Chisors wasn't ko'd v the German turk, not that it really affects much.

[Primo Carnera]

Chisors wasn't ko'd v the German turk, not that it really affects much.

Quite right my mistake.

[Fenster]

It wasn't Germany it was Monte Carlo (a live broadcast for HBO in America and Sky). The very reason Chisora is a much bigger name than the two lightwelters, he's fought everyone everywhere on massive bills, whether he's part of the main event or undercard, and still pulls off highlight reel upsets and "pub brawls" which is precisely what draws punters.

Look at their social media following?

Chisora - 235,000 twitter followers.
Parker - 100,000
Taylor - 70,000
Prograis - 10,000

335k vs 80k?

And you wonder why the PAYING PUBLIC are more interested in the "bum" heavyweights?

[Primo Carnera]

It wasn't Germany it was Monte Carlo (a live broadcast for HBO in America and Sky). The very reason Chisora is a much bigger name than the two lightwelters, he's fought everyone everywhere on massive bills, whether he's part of the main event or undercard, and still pulls off highlight reel upsets and "pub brawls" which is precisely what draws punters.

Look at their social media following?

Chisora - 235,000 twitter followers.
Parker - 100,000
Taylor - 70,000
Prograis - 10,000

335k vs 80k?

And you wonder why the PAYING PUBLIC are more interested in the "bum" heavyweights?

Nobody said it was Germany. Nobody said Chisora didn’t have more twitter followers, nobody said the PAYING PUBLIC are not interested in the “bum” heavyweights.
But not interested enough to make the Chisora v Parker fight a viable ppv without Prograis v Taylor on the card it seems.
I couldn’t give a rats ass about which fight tops the bill. All I’m saying is Chisora is not a ppv Fighter and when he went on his rant, he shouldn’t have been so disrespectful to fighters that are better Boxers than him and have achieved more than him.
If you want to get taken in by this popularity hype that Matchroom and Sky have hoodwinked you with, crack on.

[Fenster]

I'm just providing some facts mate. Chisora never said he was PPV. I'm not saying he's a PPV either.

You're not just arguing Chisora doesn't "deserve" to be popular (which is fair enough) but also that he's not. All i'm saying is, compared to fighters like Taylor/Prograis he is more popular. It's a fact. It is what it is.

You make the exact same argument about every fighter you dislike - Bellew, Khan, etc.

[Primo Carnera]

I'm just providing some facts mate. Chisora never said he was PPV. I'm not saying he's a PPV either.

You're not just arguing Chisora doesn't "deserve" to be popular (which is fair enough) but also that he's not. All i'm saying is, compared to fighters like Taylor/Prograis he is more popular. It's a fact. It is what it is.

You make the exact same argument about every fighter you dislike - Bellew, Khan, etc.

Bingo! You’re right I make the same argument about all of them . Because I dislike them all for EXACTLY the same reason! Bellew, Khan, Chisora, ALL got fights and paydays they never deserved. Good luck to them, they have made complete mugs out of all their followers and got paid handsomely in the process.
I have to say that i mellowed towards Bellew as he pushed his boundaries a little. He won fights I never expected him to win (Haye for example) , but if I start throwing loads of excuses as to why he won , I’m gonna look really obsessed .
Surely I’m not the only one that some of these fights leaves a nasty taste in the mouth with am I ?
Ps. I used to like Haye, but he turned into a disgraceful conman.

[Primo Carnera]

It wasn't Germany it was Monte Carlo (a live broadcast for HBO in America and Sky). The very reason Chisora is a much bigger name than the two lightwelters, he's fought everyone everywhere on massive bills, whether he's part of the main event or undercard, and still pulls off highlight reel upsets and "pub brawls" which is precisely what draws punters.

Look at their social media following?

Chisora - 235,000 twitter followers.
Parker - 100,000
Taylor - 70,000
Prograis - 10,000

335k vs 80k?

And you wonder why the PAYING PUBLIC are more interested in the "bum" heavyweights?

I don’t want to harp on, but ..........
Tyson Fury - 1.2m Twitter followers, paying audience of 3,577.
Followers = Bullshit!

[Fenster]

It wasn't Germany it was Monte Carlo (a live broadcast for HBO in America and Sky). The very reason Chisora is a much bigger name than the two lightwelters, he's fought everyone everywhere on massive bills, whether he's part of the main event or undercard, and still pulls off highlight reel upsets and "pub brawls" which is precisely what draws punters.

Look at their social media following?

Chisora - 235,000 twitter followers.
Parker - 100,000
Taylor - 70,000
Prograis - 10,000

335k vs 80k?

And you wonder why the PAYING PUBLIC are more interested in the "bum" heavyweights?

I don’t want to harp on, but ..........
Tyson Fury - 1.2m Twitter followers, paying audience of 3,577.
Followers = Bullshit!

Fury's fanbase is British. Don't you think it would have sold in Manchester? Or London? It was PPV in this country. American's don't buy tickets for their own fighters let alone foreigners.

Recent example - Loma-Crolla sold less than 1000 tickets in the States. Loma-Campbell sells 20,000 in London. Different worlds.

[Primo Carnera]

It wasn't Germany it was Monte Carlo (a live broadcast for HBO in America and Sky). The very reason Chisora is a much bigger name than the two lightwelters, he's fought everyone everywhere on massive bills, whether he's part of the main event or undercard, and still pulls off highlight reel upsets and "pub brawls" which is precisely what draws punters.

Look at their social media following?

Chisora - 235,000 twitter followers.
Parker - 100,000
Taylor - 70,000
Prograis - 10,000

335k vs 80k?

And you wonder why the PAYING PUBLIC are more interested in the "bum" heavyweights?

I don’t want to harp on, but ..........
Tyson Fury - 1.2m Twitter followers, paying audience of 3,577.
Followers = Bullshit!

Fury's fanbase is British. Don't you think it would have sold in Manchester? Or London? It was PPV in this country. American's don't buy tickets for their own fighters let alone foreigners.

Recent example - Loma-Crolla sold less than 1000 tickets in the States. Loma-Campbell sells 20,000 in London. Different worlds.

Ultimately the fight is where it makes the most money. Doesn’t matter whether it sells in Manchester or London or Timbuktu.
You made the point that Chisora was a bigger name because of his twitter following. Fury has 1.2 Million, surely some would go to Vegas , no? They did for Hatton.