Our Planet.

[TitoFan]

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!



But yeah nah yeah Greta Thunberg is going to "break the streak" as it were, of Climate Alarmists being absolutely pants shittingly wrong every single fucking time.

Not sure where these all come from, but some look like National Enquirer headlines. Discernment... discernment... discernment. That's the key word to remember here.

Also, for every climate alarmist there is at least one climate denier to cancel him out.

IMHO, the climate IS changing perceptively. How much of it is man-made and how much of it is nature taking its course, is beyond my pay grade.

All I know is that hurricanes are getting more frequent and more vicious.... and there are clear signs of coastal erosion in places I've seen and been to all my life.... for whatever that's worth.

Alarmist... denier... I'm neither. Just a concerned citizen that if science is in fact proving that there are worrisome climactic developments afoot, then I would hope most of us would be at least somewhat concerned.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna join the next march to Capitol Hill.

[Gandalf]

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!



But yeah nah yeah Greta Thunberg is going to "break the streak" as it were, of Climate Alarmists being absolutely pants shittingly wrong every single fucking time.

Not sure where these all come from, but some look like National Enquirer headlines. Discernment... discernment... discernment. That's the key word to remember here.

Also, for every climate alarmist there is at least one climate denier to cancel him out.

IMHO, the climate IS changing perceptively. How much of it is man-made and how much of it is nature taking its course, is beyond my pay grade.

All I know is that hurricanes are getting more frequent and more vicious.... and there are clear signs of coastal erosion in places I've seen and been to all my life.... for whatever that's worth.

Alarmist... denier... I'm neither. Just a concerned citizen that if science is in fact proving that there are worrisome climactic developments afoot, then I would hope most of us would be at least somewhat concerned.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna join the next march to Capitol Hill.

It does seem to be a trend to predict the worst. I used to do it myself a decade ago and the younger me was much more concerned, but the older me realizes that the things predicted tend not to happen, certainly not to the degree predicted. No doubt the earth is having a warming period, but in truth how many of us including Greta have felt the effects of climate change?

I have experienced pollution as they moved the factories to this side of the world. However, summer is hot and that is how it always is. I don't see any crops failing or anything terrible and life does go on.

I guess if you tell a child they will go to hell it becomes a hard thing to shake off. I see Greta a bit like that. Just a pampered naive kid getting hysterical and she will find that her life is unlikely to have been destroyed by global warming. She will either adjust or not. I feel the Desmond spirit in her. We have to be careful with child indoctrination, but of course be sensible in how we live too.

My issue really is more about pollution and waste and that is largely a human population issue. I honestly think the best solution is to be randy but be randy using logic. You do not have to impregnate a woman half a dozen times. That really is a personal behavior pattern easily fixed. I would like more endangered animals instead of people brought into the world by people who don't have any resources. It is selfish to have no self control and dumb not to plan for the future.

Moderation is the key to everything says the boring nobody me. Ain't very rock and roll I am afraid. Unlike Master who wants nipple piercings and tattoo's.....minus the booze and drugs.

[X]

It's hilarious being lectured by a completely unqualified, very unscientific, over emotional 16 year old autistic freak.

The spoilt little shit should be spanked and sent back to her fucking school. She looks like a cross between some Downs Syndrome mong, Chucky and a cabbage patch doll.

We "have stolen her dreams" - that doesn't even mean anything!

It is the millennial generation who popularised single use plastics. I have never bought a plastic bottle of water in my life. I don't buy supermarket food covered in plastic, we have a milkman who delivers milk in (recyclable) glass bottles in an electric vehicle, I don't eat mcDonalds or other shit in plastic cartons, I have never left my entire campsite behind at a festival. I am not a consumer, buying useless crap i don't need.

Who the fuck does the entitled little shit think she is? "How dare you?" she says ....... how the fuck dare SHE.

Getting sick of being lectured by pious intolerant smug bastards

[Master]

Having a go at 16 year old is not going to make the situation any better. The science is there to show there is climate change due to man made activities. We do need to do more and accepting the message is the first step.

[X]

No, mate. The science shows that human activities are ACCELERATING climate change - not causing it. There is a big difference there.

We are a ball of matter, with a molten core, spinning around in -273 degrees centigrade. Gases cover the planet, most of it is water ...... of course the climate is going to change all the time.

Changing human behaviour is not going to 'save the planet'. The planet will continue and survive very nicely with or without us. In fact, other species and lifeforms will prosper in a different climate.

What people are really saying is 'save the human species' not 'save the planet'.

For the record, I do believe that human are accelerating this, but until the world does something about Chinese, Indian and US pollution, lecturing me about eating a steak or having a single diesel car is missing the point somewhat.

I do still think the mongy little freak should fuck off back to Sweden

[Beanz]

'Mongy little freak'? Fucking hell that is a bit feeble from a grown man.

[X]

'Mongy little freak'? Fucking hell that is a bit feeble from a grown man.

i have a Christmas present I am going to post to her ......

[X]

My issue really is more about pollution and waste and that is largely a human population issue. I honestly think the best solution is to be randy but be randy using logic.

Yes. We should learn the lesson from hardcore porn. It is people like Jenna Jamieson, Stormy Daniels and Carter Cruise who will save the world .....

..... if you fuck someone up the arse and then cum all over their face, nobody gets pregnant.

[El Kabong]

Not sure where these all come from, but some look like National Enquirer headlines. Discernment... discernment... discernment. That's the key word to remember here.

Also, for every climate alarmist there is at least one climate denier to cancel him out.

IMHO, the climate IS changing perceptively. How much of it is man-made and how much of it is nature taking its course, is beyond my pay grade.

All I know is that hurricanes are getting more frequent and more vicious.... and there are clear signs of coastal erosion in places I've seen and been to all my life.... for whatever that's worth.

Alarmist... denier... I'm neither. Just a concerned citizen that if science is in fact proving that there are worrisome climactic developments afoot, then I would hope most of us would be at least somewhat concerned.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna join the next march to Capitol Hill.

Well a lot of them are direct statements from Dr. Paul Erlich who wrote 'The Population Bomb' both there are of course other "scientists" who are responsible for the other asinine predictions of doom. Here's a link https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-...ic-predictions


Are they stronger and more frequent though?
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp

I know for you them LANDING are certainly stronger and seemingly more frequent. I remember my state getting hit a lot more (not that I wish for a return to those days) around the mid-late 1990's. 1996 was an especially bad season for us. But recently we get hit with a few here and there. We used to get the occasional tropical storm from the Gulf or just in from the Atlantic and it was nice...I mean yeah there's the obvious wind damage which happens on occasion, but without such storms we're subject to drought much of the time.

The climate changes, always has always will...our using of cars and eating of beef won't change that 1 iota.



Greta can lecture everyone until her face turns blue but the facts are that she's a CHILD, she's got a condition which makes her fixate on things and only see them in absolutes, and I feel like she's being exploited by these Climate Alarmists who are now for their convenience hiding behind a child and therefore can't be questioned at all.


The Climate Alarmism agenda is a farce. It's set up for governments to take totalitarian control (aided by Big Tech, think China's Social Credit system), destroy capitalism (a stated goal of the Green New Deal), and also ruin the petro-dollar. The United States doesn't run on the gold standard anymore (hopefully someday we return to that system) we run on the petro-dollar as Saudi Arabia only sells their oil (due to a treaty with the US and others) in return for American dollars it's the biggest reason the American dollar is the world reserve currency and it's also why China is never ever ever ever....EVER hassled about their emissions from these Climate Alarmist groups because China directly benefits from the success of those groups in the West.

If humans were truly destroying the climate why does Michael Moore own several houses? Why does Al Gore have a beachfront house? Why did Obama buy a $15 million mansion on Martha's Vineyard? I thought the sea levels were rising and we had 1 decade to "fix" things? Does no one else see through their bullshit? Harrison Ford and Leo DiCaprio flying all over God's green Earth? Greta's boat crew FLYING back to Europe thereby negating any "Green" part of her Trans-Atlantic boat voyage? Are these FACTS lost on everyone but myself?

I enjoy the outdoors and clean air and so on, I probably spend more time out there than most hunting and gardening and hiking and camping. I want clean air and water, but I'm telling you these Climate Doomsdayers are not pure and thoughtful and innocent, quite the opposite and they've suckered in a fair amount of well meaning people sadly.

[TitoFan]

Not sure where these all come from, but some look like National Enquirer headlines. Discernment... discernment... discernment. That's the key word to remember here.

Also, for every climate alarmist there is at least one climate denier to cancel him out.

IMHO, the climate IS changing perceptively. How much of it is man-made and how much of it is nature taking its course, is beyond my pay grade.

All I know is that hurricanes are getting more frequent and more vicious.... and there are clear signs of coastal erosion in places I've seen and been to all my life.... for whatever that's worth.

Alarmist... denier... I'm neither. Just a concerned citizen that if science is in fact proving that there are worrisome climactic developments afoot, then I would hope most of us would be at least somewhat concerned.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna join the next march to Capitol Hill.

Well a lot of them are direct statements from Dr. Paul Erlich who wrote 'The Population Bomb' both there are of course other "scientists" who are responsible for the other asinine predictions of doom. Here's a link https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-...ic-predictions


Are they stronger and more frequent though?
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp

I know for you them LANDING are certainly stronger and seemingly more frequent. I remember my state getting hit a lot more (not that I wish for a return to those days) around the mid-late 1990's. 1996 was an especially bad season for us. But recently we get hit with a few here and there. We used to get the occasional tropical storm from the Gulf or just in from the Atlantic and it was nice...I mean yeah there's the obvious wind damage which happens on occasion, but without such storms we're subject to drought much of the time.

The climate changes, always has always will...our using of cars and eating of beef won't change that 1 iota.



Greta can lecture everyone until her face turns blue but the facts are that she's a CHILD, she's got a condition which makes her fixate on things and only see them in absolutes, and I feel like she's being exploited by these Climate Alarmists who are now for their convenience hiding behind a child and therefore can't be questioned at all.


The Climate Alarmism agenda is a farce. It's set up for governments to take totalitarian control (aided by Big Tech, think China's Social Credit system), destroy capitalism (a stated goal of the Green New Deal), and also ruin the petro-dollar. The United States doesn't run on the gold standard anymore (hopefully someday we return to that system) we run on the petro-dollar as Saudi Arabia only sells their oil (due to a treaty with the US and others) in return for American dollars it's the biggest reason the American dollar is the world reserve currency and it's also why China is never ever ever ever....EVER hassled about their emissions from these Climate Alarmist groups because China directly benefits from the success of those groups in the West.

If humans were truly destroying the climate why does Michael Moore own several houses? Why does Al Gore have a beachfront house? Why did Obama buy a $15 million mansion on Martha's Vineyard? I thought the sea levels were rising and we had 1 decade to "fix" things? Does no one else see through their bullshit? Harrison Ford and Leo DiCaprio flying all over God's green Earth? Greta's boat crew FLYING back to Europe thereby negating any "Green" part of her Trans-Atlantic boat voyage? Are these FACTS lost on everyone but myself?

I enjoy the outdoors and clean air and so on, I probably spend more time out there than most hunting and gardening and hiking and camping. I want clean air and water, but I'm telling you these Climate Doomsdayers are not pure and thoughtful and innocent, quite the opposite and they've suckered in a fair amount of well meaning people sadly.

Well... I'd have to point out that from that link you posted, 10 out of the top 15 years for number of named storms are from 2000 to the present... and there is an entry for the year 1887 in there, so..........

Regardless, going back some decades in my mind, it's my distinct impression that very active years have become all the more frequent. I know all about the El Niño climactic cycle theory, but it still doesn't explain how it seems every year now the storms get more and more frequent... as well as more and more severe.

I think if you polled everyone here, nobody would disagree that climate change is a normal behavior of the planet, and in as of itself nothing to be panicked about. If you polled everyone here, most of us would agree that Greta is being used by climate alarmists to provide shock value to their message, which they feel is not being heard otherwise. And finally if you polled everyone here, you'd find that no one is disputing that there are hypocrites among the climate "alarmists", much like there are hypocrites who love to engage in fear mongering in other issues as well. As with other issues, all it does is obscure the facts, because people just waste time arguing/insulting/fighting with one another. Any worthwhile message gets lost in the wash.

I commend you for having such a green lifestyle. If most would do the same, like with X, as well..... we'd all probably be a little better off.

I agree with the thought that many things we humans are doing are having an adverse effect on the environment. But that includes pollution as well. IMO, we can't just turn a blind eye to what's going on in ever increasing orders of magnitude. Like I said before, by and large we humans treat the environment as if it were a disposable plastic cup. Just toss it aside and don't worry about the future.... we won't be around for that.

Yes.... I also noticed that Greta flew back home instead of taking the same boat back. She could've flown both ways and delivered the same message. If anyone thinks we're going back to the days of Christopher Columbus sailing across the Atlantic in the name of the environment.... well.... there's not much to add to that.

My issue with Greta is not really with Greta, but with the many adults who in one way or another put her up there. It may have been a miscalculation by the alarmists, because by and large politicians don't like to get scolded. So Greta's scolding may have been "just a tad" over the top there. Now.... instead of having the politicians say "hey... she does have a point... we need to have more urgency on this", people are just talking about the appropriateness (or lack thereof) of Greta's message.

[El Kabong]

Well... I'd have to point out that from that link you posted, 10 out of the top 15 years for number of named storms are from 2000 to the present... and there is an entry for the year 1887 in there, so..........

Regardless, going back some decades in my mind, it's my distinct impression that very active years have become all the more frequent. I know all about the El Niño climactic cycle theory, but it still doesn't explain how it seems every year now the storms get more and more frequent... as well as more and more severe.

I think if you polled everyone here, nobody would disagree that climate change is a normal behavior of the planet, and in as of itself nothing to be panicked about. If you polled everyone here, most of us would agree that Greta is being used by climate alarmists to provide shock value to their message, which they feel is not being heard otherwise. And finally if you polled everyone here, you'd find that no one is disputing that there are hypocrites among the climate "alarmists", much like there are hypocrites who love to engage in fear mongering in other issues as well. As with other issues, all it does is obscure the facts, because people just waste time arguing/insulting/fighting with one another. Any worthwhile message gets lost in the wash.

I commend you for having such a green lifestyle. If most would do the same, like with X, as well..... we'd all probably be a little better off.

I agree with the thought that many things we humans are doing are having an adverse effect on the environment. But that includes pollution as well. IMO, we can't just turn a blind eye to what's going on in ever increasing orders of magnitude. Like I said before, by and large we humans treat the environment as if it were a disposable plastic cup. Just toss it aside and don't worry about the future.... we won't be around for that.

Yes.... I also noticed that Greta flew back home instead of taking the same boat back. She could've flown both ways and delivered the same message. If anyone thinks we're going back to the days of Christopher Columbus sailing across the Atlantic in the name of the environment.... well.... there's not much to add to that.

My issue with Greta is not really with Greta, but with the many adults who in one way or another put her up there. It may have been a miscalculation by the alarmists, because by and large politicians don't like to get scolded. So Greta's scolding may have been "just a tad" over the top there. Now.... instead of having the politicians say "hey... she does have a point... we need to have more urgency on this", people are just talking about the appropriateness (or lack thereof) of Greta's message.

Yeah "named storms" and the seasons with the most hurricanes are: 2005, 2010, 1969, 1887, 1950, 1998, 1995, 1933, 1915 and the seasons with the most MAJOR hurricanes is 1950 then 2005, 1999, 1996, 1964, 1961, 1955, 1926 and then the seasons with the highest Accumulated Cyclone Energy only have 2 years from this century in them, so again wouldn't those numbers be trending up? Notice 2010 is the only one this decade to make the list of the most hurricanes, 2011 the only other to make top for named storms....where's 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc IF we're having more storms and they are stronger. That list doesn't even go over the hurricanes which made landfall, I know the continental US went a long stretch of time without a major hurricane making landfall. Now I know the monetary damages are higher, and higher but that's due to more people living on the coast and having lavish houses on the beach and in my state on THE OUTER BANKS (morons!!! absolute MORONS!!!). The population on the coast and therefore all the crap people bring with them adds up and clean up is expensive no doubt. God forbid we get another Hazel! But we will, eventually just like Kansas or Iowa or Oklahoma or wherever will get another F-5 tornado and California will get another massive earthquake....this shit happens. I'm kind of expecting California to have another whopper, it's been since 1992 when they've had a 7.0+ quake...I don't wish it on them, but it's a matter of time.


Oh Greta doesn't fly anymore, but the members of her crew did. I feel bad for the girl to an extent, but she's 16 she's bound to get hip to the real issues in that whole group eventually. As for the "appropriateness" of Greta's message....dude, make no mistake, these are totalitarians, they will act by FORCE it never fails. I'm not saying Greta will be kicking down doors and adjusting thermostats with armed guards, but I AM saying she's the face of a group of people who are EAGER to do such.....ditto with the Chinese social credit program....it's on the way over here, Big Tech is all about it.

[TitoFan]

Well... I'd have to point out that from that link you posted, 10 out of the top 15 years for number of named storms are from 2000 to the present... and there is an entry for the year 1887 in there, so..........

Regardless, going back some decades in my mind, it's my distinct impression that very active years have become all the more frequent. I know all about the El Niño climactic cycle theory, but it still doesn't explain how it seems every year now the storms get more and more frequent... as well as more and more severe.

I think if you polled everyone here, nobody would disagree that climate change is a normal behavior of the planet, and in as of itself nothing to be panicked about. If you polled everyone here, most of us would agree that Greta is being used by climate alarmists to provide shock value to their message, which they feel is not being heard otherwise. And finally if you polled everyone here, you'd find that no one is disputing that there are hypocrites among the climate "alarmists", much like there are hypocrites who love to engage in fear mongering in other issues as well. As with other issues, all it does is obscure the facts, because people just waste time arguing/insulting/fighting with one another. Any worthwhile message gets lost in the wash.

I commend you for having such a green lifestyle. If most would do the same, like with X, as well..... we'd all probably be a little better off.

I agree with the thought that many things we humans are doing are having an adverse effect on the environment. But that includes pollution as well. IMO, we can't just turn a blind eye to what's going on in ever increasing orders of magnitude. Like I said before, by and large we humans treat the environment as if it were a disposable plastic cup. Just toss it aside and don't worry about the future.... we won't be around for that.

Yes.... I also noticed that Greta flew back home instead of taking the same boat back. She could've flown both ways and delivered the same message. If anyone thinks we're going back to the days of Christopher Columbus sailing across the Atlantic in the name of the environment.... well.... there's not much to add to that.

My issue with Greta is not really with Greta, but with the many adults who in one way or another put her up there. It may have been a miscalculation by the alarmists, because by and large politicians don't like to get scolded. So Greta's scolding may have been "just a tad" over the top there. Now.... instead of having the politicians say "hey... she does have a point... we need to have more urgency on this", people are just talking about the appropriateness (or lack thereof) of Greta's message.

Yeah "named storms" and the seasons with the most hurricanes are: 2005, 2010, 1969, 1887, 1950, 1998, 1995, 1933, 1915 and the seasons with the most MAJOR hurricanes is 1950 then 2005, 1999, 1996, 1964, 1961, 1955, 1926 and then the seasons with the highest Accumulated Cyclone Energy only have 2 years from this century in them, so again wouldn't those numbers be trending up? Notice 2010 is the only one this decade to make the list of the most hurricanes, 2011 the only other to make top for named storms....where's 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc IF we're having more storms and they are stronger. That list doesn't even go over the hurricanes which made landfall, I know the continental US went a long stretch of time without a major hurricane making landfall. Now I know the monetary damages are higher, and higher but that's due to more people living on the coast and having lavish houses on the beach and in my state on THE OUTER BANKS (morons!!! absolute MORONS!!!). The population on the coast and therefore all the crap people bring with them adds up and clean up is expensive no doubt. God forbid we get another Hazel! But we will, eventually just like Kansas or Iowa or Oklahoma or wherever will get another F-5 tornado and California will get another massive earthquake....this shit happens. I'm kind of expecting California to have another whopper, it's been since 1992 when they've had a 7.0+ quake...I don't wish it on them, but it's a matter of time.


Oh Greta doesn't fly anymore, but the members of her crew did. I feel bad for the girl to an extent, but she's 16 she's bound to get hip to the real issues in that whole group eventually. As for the "appropriateness" of Greta's message....dude, make no mistake, these are totalitarians, they will act by FORCE it never fails. I'm not saying Greta will be kicking down doors and adjusting thermostats with armed guards, but I AM saying she's the face of a group of people who are EAGER to do such.....ditto with the Chinese social credit program....it's on the way over here, Big Tech is all about it.

When I speak of hurricanes, I can only speak from personal experience. The first big, damaging hurricane I personally experienced was Hugo back in '89. Before then, hurricanes were rare (at least here), and hurricane seasons were fairly quiet. Before Hugo the last hurricane to hit Puerto Rico was back in the 50's, before my time, but well documented. Before that, there was one or two in the 30's. After Hugo, we got hit by Hortense in '96, Georges in '98, and a host of close calls or just plain tropical storms in ever increasing numbers until the double-whammy of Irma and Maria in 2017. This season, the never before experienced scenario of having 6 active tropical storm systems going at the same time (including the Pacific) occurred for the first time.

It used to be we could go years without thinking about the possibility of a hurricane. Those days are gone. Every year hurricane season is first and foremost on everyone's mind. And it's not just getting hammered by Maria. I'd say it's been an increasing trend since Hugo. Every year now we get a close call, or brushed by a storm or hurricane it seems. Every year.

I wish climate change wouldn't be one of those hot topics which automatically polarizes people to one magnetic pole or the other.... but unfortunately it is. I say unfortunate because it's such an IMPORTANT issue.... and yet the many truths just fall through the cracks in the midst of all the mindless bickering on both sides. It's the quintessential tug-of-war. Everyone's so busy pulling to opposite sides, nothing productive gets done, and at the end of it all everyone's just tired and fed up.

[El Kabong]

I'm with you on Hugo only we got it as a Cat4.

I'll say this, you guys in PR are being hit a bit more often by bigger storms, but that's up to bad luck in weather patters and not man's impact on the climate.

[TIC]

climate change is a scam. greta is mentally ill. nothing wrong with stating a fact. using children to push the fear mongering fraud is the worst. the climate is being manipulated. they have been playing with weather modification since the 30s. same as they did in vietnam, using the technology to make it rain an extra 3 months to try and give the usa an advantage