What should Crawford’s next move be?

[powerpuncher]

Manny has lost before and still do good numbers. I guess Crawford or Spence will not be too bothered if they get the big money already without having to risk it against a truly top world class boxer at the peak of their powers.

This is similar to AJ and Wilder. It did not matter who they successfully defended their title against everyone wanted the unification to prove who was the best in the division.

Problem with Crawford/Spence is Arum got rich dangling the May/PAC carrot all the while holding out by asking for an unrealistic percentage. Once they accepted the proper share we had the fight. Here they are doing the same in regards to Spence/Bud, 50/50 is simply not supported by the numbers. So the fight won’t happen until they decide to be realistic.

Sounds like the AJ/Wilder negotiations all over again.

It’s just unfortunate that there can’t be a clear cut way to divide money

[Ron Swanson]

Manny has lost before and still do good numbers. I guess Crawford or Spence will not be too bothered if they get the big money already without having to risk it against a truly top world class boxer at the peak of their powers.

This is similar to AJ and Wilder. It did not matter who they successfully defended their title against everyone wanted the unification to prove who was the best in the division.

Problem with Crawford/Spence is Arum got rich dangling the May/PAC carrot all the while holding out by asking for an unrealistic percentage. Once they accepted the proper share we had the fight. Here they are doing the same in regards to Spence/Bud, 50/50 is simply not supported by the numbers. So the fight won’t happen until they decide to be realistic.

Sounds like the AJ/Wilder negotiations all over again.

It’s just unfortunate that there can’t be a clear cut way to divide money

But there can. Promoters just use money as a way to select what suits them. They don’t follow simple business practices. They could very simply look at each’s last PPV, compare and have a percentage to begin negotiations. Or if that’s somehow unfair look at every PPV, calculate average, compare and have those numbers to begin negotiations. Of course you would swing the percentages a bit towards the fighter getting less because it takes 2 to sell a fight. But it’s a realistic starting point. One guy sells 3 times as much but it’s 50/50, no. When Bob says 50/50 he’s saying he doesn’t want the fight. Anyone that denies that is lying to people.

[powerpuncher]

Manny has lost before and still do good numbers. I guess Crawford or Spence will not be too bothered if they get the big money already without having to risk it against a truly top world class boxer at the peak of their powers.

This is similar to AJ and Wilder. It did not matter who they successfully defended their title against everyone wanted the unification to prove who was the best in the division.

Problem with Crawford/Spence is Arum got rich dangling the May/PAC carrot all the while holding out by asking for an unrealistic percentage. Once they accepted the proper share we had the fight. Here they are doing the same in regards to Spence/Bud, 50/50 is simply not supported by the numbers. So the fight won’t happen until they decide to be realistic.

Sounds like the AJ/Wilder negotiations all over again.

It’s just unfortunate that there can’t be a clear cut way to divide money

But there can. Promoters just use money as a way to select what suits them. They don’t follow simple business practices. They could very simply look at each’s last PPV, compare and have a percentage to begin negotiations. Or if that’s somehow unfair look at every PPV, calculate average, compare and have those numbers to begin negotiations. Of course you would swing the percentages a bit towards the fighter getting less because it takes 2 to sell a fight. But it’s a realistic starting point. One guy sells 3 times as much but it’s 50/50, no. When Bob says 50/50 he’s saying he doesn’t want the fight. Anyone that denies that is lying to people.

I get that, but I’m saying that it would be nice if title holders automatically got a specific percentage so that there wouldn’t really need to be much negotiation. It will always be extremely hard to negotiate if you are the better fighter fighting the bigger draw.