Our Planet.

[El Kabong]

Yes @Fenster part of why I don't believe the Climate Alarmists is that I remember being taught how humans were killing the planet way back in the 90's and Global Warming and holes in the Ozone layer (what happened to THAT scare tactic?) and Acid Rain (what happened to THAT?!?!) and sea levels rising, and all that sort of shit and having lived through the decades since then I look back and see it for what it is.....

Chicken Little and/or The Boy Who Cried Wolf...the fear mongering works people up into a frenzy and gets the lefties all riled up and EMOTIONAL and then they vote accordingly. With bleeding hearts and soft brains rather than question what they are taught, rather than use logic and reason, rather than balance their emotions with those attributes they act on pure blind emotion....which is why they use children because when people question the children there's an immediate EMOTIONAL response to that as well and it builds upon itself.

What do the Climate Alarmists want when it gets down to brass tacks? Control. They want to control what you eat, they want to control where you go, they want to control how you get there, they want to control all aspects of your life. CO2 is their key villain, human produced CO2 specifically....guess what...ALL humans naturally exhale CO2 meaning I guess if you're a bad enough person or a heavy enough breather then you'll need to stop that as well. I've yet to hear/read/see anything from ANY Climate Alarmists on the FACT that plants breathe IN CO2 and exhale (if you will) Oxygen and CO2 is CO2 it doesn't change from a molecular standpoint if it's emitted from exhaling or from a car exhaust or what have you....but hey why start thinking about pesky facts like that when you should PANIC!!!! OMG PANIC! PANIC PANIC!!!!! WHY AREN'T YOU PANICKING!?!?!?! Little Greta says the house is on fire, PANIC!!! Do what the child says!!!!


I'm for clean air, clean water, and conservation of wildlife. But it's ME who should change MY life and not Al Gore or Barack Obama or whatever virtue signalling celebrity jet setting around the globe living in beachfront mansions shouldn't change theirs? Rrrrrrright

[Fatboxingfan]

1. Record Ice

In 2014 there was record sea ice in Antarctica in fact a global warming expedition got stuck in it. Arctic sea ice has also made a nice comeback in 2014. The Great lakes had record ice Lake Superior only had 3 ice free months in 2014. You’d think that in the hottest year ever that ice would be melting like Al Gore said.

2. Record Snow

2014 saw record snowfall in many areas, remember when they said that global warming would cause snow to disappear and children won’t know what snow is.

3. Record Cold

In 2014 we saw all kinds of cold records remember the Polar Vortex? You’d think that we’d be breaking all kinds of heat records in “the hottest year ever”

4. Oceans Are Rising Much Less Than Predicted

Al Gore predicted that oceans would rise 20 feet by 2100, it looks like were on track for about a foot. 80% of the tide gauges show less rise than the official “global average”. Many tide gauges show no rise in sea level, and almost none show any acceleration over the past 20 years.

5. Polar Bears Are Thriving

You’d think that Polar Bears would really be in trouble in 2014 “the hottest year ever” but they are thriving.

6. Moose Are Making A Comeback

A few years ago the moose population in Minnesota dropped rapidly and they immediately blamed global warming, then they did a study and found out it was actually wolves that were killing the moose. Wolves have been taken off the endangered species list and are now endangering other species so they opened a wolf hunting season in Minnesota and the moose are coming back. It turns out it had nothing to do with global warming in fact the years when the moose population declined were some very cold ones.

7. 99% of Scientists don’t believe in Catastrophic Man-Made Global Warming

You’ve probably heard over and over that 99% of scientist believe in global warming well the opposite is true. That talking point came from a study where only 75 scientists said they believe in global warming on the other hand over 31,000 scientists have signed a petition saying they don’t believe in Catastrophic Man-Made Global Warming.

8. Nature produces much more CO2 than man

In 2014 NASA finally launched a satellite that measures CO2 levels around the globe. They assumed that most of the CO2 would be coming from the industrialized northern hemisphere but much to their surprise it was coming from the rainforests in South America, Africa and China.

9. It Isn’t Actually the Warmest Year.

If you look at the satellite data 2014 was not the warmest year ever in fact there has been no global warming for over 18 years. The Reason they can say it’s the warmest year is because they are using the ground weather station data which is heavily influenced by the Urban Heat Island effect, many of which are near pavement. Even still they had to cherry pick that data to get at the warmest year ever and it is only the warmest by only two-100ths of a degree within a dataset that has a variability of a half of a degree. The fact they they had to ignore accurate data and fudge sketchy data to push their agenda proves (IMHO) that climate change is a hoax.

10. The Hypocrisy of the Main Players

One of the main reasons you can tell that global warming is a hoax is that the main purveyors of global warming live lifestyles opposite of what they preach, they all own multiple large homes and yachts and they fly around the world in private jets pushing their propaganda. Not to mention some people such as Al Gore actually profit from Carbon Taxes and other green energy laws. If they actually believed what they preached they would be leading quite different lives.

[TitoFan]

Hey you're right you guys. There is absolutely no truth to climate change one single iota. It's all a big, cruel hoax on the rest of the world being played by a whole bunch of people that frankly have nothing better to do with their lives.

Meanwhile though......

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019...ltimate-winner

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/As...Pole-supremacy


I reckon the U.S. better get on the ball and make sure to stake out their claims to Arctic territory and strategic shipping lanes in the northern ice sheet that ISN'T melting.

Then again, maybe these articles are an elaborate part of the hoax as well. Pretty well coordinated, as one of them is in fact Chinese.


These fucking climate change bastards! They should just let the rest of us pollute the land, sea, and sky at will. WTF..... we're not gonna be around in 50 years. Who really gives a shit?

[Fatboxingfan]

Why am I detecting sarcasm there Mr. Titofan? I almost missed it. I see you believe there's lots more to the story then meets the eye. You may be right. Things are more hot now but we don't know, maybe since earth is 4.5 billion year old, could be climate change has gone up and down thousands of times before we were here. Just now going up at the same time as modern society and pollution, with or without us, could be same thing. Go back 5 million years, can we take the tempature to compare I think not. We will never know.

[TitoFan]

Why am I detecting sarcasm there Mr. Titofan? I almost missed it. I see you believe there's lots more to the story then meets the eye. You may be right. Things are more hot now but we don't know, maybe since earth is 4.5 billion year old, could be climate change has gone up and down thousands of times before we were here. Just now going up at the same time as modern society and pollution, with or without us, could be same thing. Go back 5 million years, can we take the tempature to compare I think not. We will never know.

I don't deny (nor have I ever denied) the cyclic nature of climate. Which is why I'm not an "alarmist." I continue to live a normal life, and just try to do my part to protect the environment. I just get puzzled as to the intensity of the vitriol between sides, but particularly by the "deniers" toward anyone who dares mention the words climate change. There's a certain sector of people that yes.... they would have you believe that ALL climate change is man-made. Those are the fanatics. But there are those of us in the middle who believe that the climate is really changing, but don't claim it's all a man-made thing. Regarding pollution, I think it's mindless to continue (as the human race) pollution the planet at will. The stats are there... the numbers are there. Eventually this runaway pollution is going to have an effect.

[Fatboxingfan]

I'm against pollution. Don't care for plastic. Styrafoam is the worst invention ever. Nukes I can't condemn yet nuke waste and misshaps have killed millions more. Sir were living in a "I gotcha!" Type society in that it cost so much and hurts so much when you get humiliated on Twitter or gang up on people to embarrass them/fire them/shame them. People are gun shy and can't give an inch of ground. I think I just explained the same thing you said about going to extreme vitriol totally divided society these days.

[El Kabong]

Hey you're right you guys. There is absolutely no truth to climate change one single iota. It's all a big, cruel hoax on the rest of the world being played by a whole bunch of people that frankly have nothing better to do with their lives.

Meanwhile though......

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019...ltimate-winner

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/As...Pole-supremacy


I reckon the U.S. better get on the ball and make sure to stake out their claims to Arctic territory and strategic shipping lanes in the northern ice sheet that ISN'T melting.

Then again, maybe these articles are an elaborate part of the hoax as well. Pretty well coordinated, as one of them is in fact Chinese.


These fucking climate change bastards! They should just let the rest of us pollute the land, sea, and sky at will. WTF..... we're not gonna be around in 50 years. Who really gives a shit?

Alright....ice has been melting at the north pole and shipping lanes are opening up....then where's the catastrophic sea level change?


I was promised a CATASTROPHIC sea level rise and damnit right now I'm feeling a bit ripped off