Posh Extinction Rebellion-vs- working class Londoners trying to earn a living.

[Gandalf]

That sounded personal to me.

Yes of course it was personal. You don't really think El Kabong never stoops that low? Aspergers is not an affliction. I would not be me without it. I would have failed massively in life WITHOUT it.

She is afflicted with selective mutism.

I didn't mention her Autism. But that's troubling that her parents would know her condition and pimp it out to virtue signal to the world. Not a very kind or thoughtful thing to do for your child.

Selective mutism is a form, expression of some kinds of autism. I supported a student who was described as non verbal, selectively mute, for 18 months. She speaks now and has a job.

You really are a cunt though. You can't bring yourself to give any credit to her because she is female and because you don't think kids have agency. For you they are things to control and not people. It is quite clear she is not being used by her parents at all, but to admit that would mean admitting you have massive issues yourself, just like Gandalf.

I have heard you and many others use this virtue signalling argument before as though people with disabilities etc should know their place and shut up about it. Amazing in 2019.

To use disgusting language like "pimping out" about her and to suggest that it would be more kind and thoughtful for her parents to thwart her bravery and determination does not say a lot for you as a parent. And Gandalf is worried about single mothers?

Rather than keep doing this on the main boards, why don't you get it all off your chest in private? You constantly moaned about bitterness and new posters not being here and old posters vanishing a while back, had us all on ignore and even threatened to leave, and yet the vinegar is largely you as shown above.

If you have something you want to say, then start a thread on a hidden board and let us hash it all out. You clearly have issues yourself otherwise you would not be so cranky and compulsive all the time. A flat calm and rational person would not need to constantly be behaving in the way you do.

You make weird accusations that I am an alt, that I have views I do not actually have and all of these things, so get it off your chest you bitter old man.

Stop trying to censor the entire forum. You and El Kabong already dominate it with literally thousands of posts as the two most prolific posters, and now you are demanding everyone agree with you. You are both horrible blokes that want their prejudices confirmed and their ignorance to be lauded. Alpha is not so different.

This is a board where apparently it is OK to say 'Mongy little down syndrome autistic cabbage patch kid' but to make a measured calm cogent argument against that kind of ignorance is now deemed offensive and something to be hidden away.

Insane.

If you want an argument, start your own thread calling out the people you have an issue with. It isn't complicated. I wasn't in your Lyle debate but still you brought me into it, so if you have an issue, start a thread and let's have it out.

[Beanz]

I don't have an issue that is the entire point. You have an issue with disability and so does El Kabong with his creationist old testament 'affliction' nonsense.

You want me to hide or away. It's a bit creepy to be honest the oversensitivity to straight talking here you are trying to impose on everyone as though this is your personal safe space.

Extinction Rebellion is not Greta though and the guys on the train have been called out by many XR people so there is that, and a lot of reverse class snobbery so maybe I will start a thread about disability, loathe though I am to do so in a place in which stereotyping bollocks is so commonplace.

[Gandalf]

If you have no issue then why accuse me of 'having issues' like Lyle apparently does too and yet again berating Lyle for finally insulting you back? You are seeking conflict and I am saying if you want it then start a thread and let's have it out. All Lyle did is point out that a girl has mental issues. Nothing more.

You constantly moan about the decline of the forum and the bitterness yet spread bile constantly, so I have nicely said if you want to get messy then go for it but if you respect the forum you won't want it here. Your choice. No need for safe spaces. A space where it all flies is what I am offering. It's in your court. Turn it up or wind that neck in. Your choice.

[Beanz]

Because it us YOU GUYS with the issue. You can't handle people with another opinion and so you seek to have anyone expressing one painted as 'weird' or 'angry' rather than engage. You are doing it now in trying to shut me down rather than think of things in a different way.

I say what I say because of direct personal experience but because it conflicts with your 'feelings' or 'opinion' you want to ignore the cognitive dissonance it triggers in you.

[Gandalf]

Because it us YOU GUYS with the issue. You can't handle people with another opinion and so you seek to have anyone expressing one painted as 'weird' or 'angry' rather than engage. You are doing it now in trying to shut me down rather than think of things in a different way.

I say what I say because of direct personal experience but because it conflicts with your 'feelings' or 'opinion' you want to ignore the cognitive dissonance it triggers in you.

Start a thread then. If you want a flame war do it in that ilk. If you want a civil discussion about mental or physical illness then start one. I am fine engaging with you. However, when called out on things and insulted routinely then it seems you have an issue.

Let's tidy the room. Have the discussion.

[Beanz]

Flame War? 😁

The whole forum is a flame war. This thread was designed to be one ffs. The mistake you make is to think of yourself and El Kabong as being civil, you are both anything but. I don't dish out bile despite it feeling like that to you. I am just giving an honest account of what I feel about you both and your attitudes.

There has been and still is, plenty of real, nasty, personal and vitriolic bile dished out in the past and you were always silent about it. You in fact encouraged and stuck up for the main protagonists with repeated campaigns.

[Gandalf]

Flame War? 😁

The whole forum is a flame war. This thread was designed to be one ffs. The mistake you make is to think of yourself and El Kabong as being civil, you are both anything but. I don't dish out bile despite it feeling like that to you. I am just giving an honest account of what I feel about you both and your attitudes.

There has been and still is, plenty of real, nasty, personal and vitriolic bile dished out in the past and you were always silent about it. You in fact encouraged and stuck up for the main protagonists with repeated campaigns.

The same vice versa. I find your attitude and aspects of your ideology repulsive too. I don't hold back on telling you that.

And don't pretend you were not part of a pack against me in the past. I have tried with you and it has come unstuck everytime. So have others. Yet others do not have that problem with each other. Think about that too.

[Beanz]

You have whatever issue you have so go and start the thread. I am just posting straight down the middle calling a spade a spade like I always have.

Civil disobedience is a useful tool and has changed the world but if you don't believe in climate change XR's actions will seem extreme. If what they say is true they actually are not extreme enough.

It is not the case that the thousands who demonstrate and march with XR are all posh elite trustafarians who are friends with astronauts like El Kabong. Many are no different than you, teachers, plumbers, quarry workers, CEOs, pensioners, veterans, crusties, office workers, vets, engineers, dealers, benefit scroungers, gamblers, civil servants, council workers, etc.

[Gandalf]

And I do not have an issue with disabled people. In terms of physical disability bad things happen and why would I have an issue with that? I just took issue with you once declaring that Alan, an illegal immigrant with no legs having illegally crossed railway limes in front of a train could make a good teacher. The main reason being that teaching is a very physical job and it would be difficult to navigate bags and chairs and we have no idea what his intelligence level even is. Not everyone can be a teacher. Is it Alan? I have a friend out for a term having broken a leg. He cannot physically do it.

Or is it mental illness? Granted I have mocked you a bit as your game is mockery and condescension in general. And yes, I teased Greta and her expressions. However, I don't doubt that she is sometimes a cheery person not contemplating mass extinction. I read extensively about mental illness and am more compassionate than you think.

However, I am not beyond online mockery. It is no different to you mocking baldness or obesity or my own problems. You don't really know me in person, Beanz and so you have a perception that is what you want it to be. I think many of us build up a perception without knowing a person. Thus I end up being a 'sociopath' when anybody who knows me would find that bizarre.

So, yeah, if you want to continue with the 'baddie' thing then start a thread on it. You can insult as much as you like without ruining the forum on a private board.