Posh Extinction Rebellion-vs- working class Londoners trying to earn a living.

[Gandalf]

Because it us YOU GUYS with the issue. You can't handle people with another opinion and so you seek to have anyone expressing one painted as 'weird' or 'angry' rather than engage. You are doing it now in trying to shut me down rather than think of things in a different way.

I say what I say because of direct personal experience but because it conflicts with your 'feelings' or 'opinion' you want to ignore the cognitive dissonance it triggers in you.

Start a thread then. If you want a flame war do it in that ilk. If you want a civil discussion about mental or physical illness then start one. I am fine engaging with you. However, when called out on things and insulted routinely then it seems you have an issue.

Let's tidy the room. Have the discussion.

[Beanz]

Flame War? 😁

The whole forum is a flame war. This thread was designed to be one ffs. The mistake you make is to think of yourself and El Kabong as being civil, you are both anything but. I don't dish out bile despite it feeling like that to you. I am just giving an honest account of what I feel about you both and your attitudes.

There has been and still is, plenty of real, nasty, personal and vitriolic bile dished out in the past and you were always silent about it. You in fact encouraged and stuck up for the main protagonists with repeated campaigns.

[Gandalf]

Flame War? 😁

The whole forum is a flame war. This thread was designed to be one ffs. The mistake you make is to think of yourself and El Kabong as being civil, you are both anything but. I don't dish out bile despite it feeling like that to you. I am just giving an honest account of what I feel about you both and your attitudes.

There has been and still is, plenty of real, nasty, personal and vitriolic bile dished out in the past and you were always silent about it. You in fact encouraged and stuck up for the main protagonists with repeated campaigns.

The same vice versa. I find your attitude and aspects of your ideology repulsive too. I don't hold back on telling you that.

And don't pretend you were not part of a pack against me in the past. I have tried with you and it has come unstuck everytime. So have others. Yet others do not have that problem with each other. Think about that too.

[Beanz]

You have whatever issue you have so go and start the thread. I am just posting straight down the middle calling a spade a spade like I always have.

Civil disobedience is a useful tool and has changed the world but if you don't believe in climate change XR's actions will seem extreme. If what they say is true they actually are not extreme enough.

It is not the case that the thousands who demonstrate and march with XR are all posh elite trustafarians who are friends with astronauts like El Kabong. Many are no different than you, teachers, plumbers, quarry workers, CEOs, pensioners, veterans, crusties, office workers, vets, engineers, dealers, benefit scroungers, gamblers, civil servants, council workers, etc.

[Gandalf]

I don't really have an issue and was more curious about what your issue was TBH whence asking you to start the thread. It is you saying I 'have issues' and all those things about Lyle, so I thought 'If you want to get it off your chest, then go for it'. Fenster is the one with the posh angle and I don't dispute that there are environmental issues. I just think there is a certain hysteria and that Greta is being peddled to a large degree to manipulate emotions. I am all for a world of nuclear energy including that for Iran too and new technologies, but that will come with demand and innovation which will emerge in time. There is no reason to burn coal anymore and I am all for stopping that. I will always maintain that overpopulation is a serious issue and you frown upon me for thinking that way, but it is obviously a factor going forward.

[Beanz]

https://southendnewsnetwork.net/news...e-charged-e50/

[Fenster]

This thread was designed to watch you soppy tarts having a "flame war?" Do me a favour, as if ya'll need an excuse.

I know XR protesters, nice people, good people, they're still fucking hypocrites though.

[Beanz]

This thread was designed to watch you soppy tarts having a "flame war?" Do me a favour, as if ya'll need an excuse.

I know XR protesters, nice people, good people, they're still fucking hypocrites though.

We are all hypocrites. Except Wally.

[Fenster]

It is not the case that the thousands who demonstrate and march with XR are all posh elite trustafarians, many are no different than you, teachers, plumbers, quarry workers, CEOs, pensioners, veterans, crusties, office workers, vets, engineers, dealers, benefit scroungers, gamblers, civil servants, council workers, etc.

The beauty of the fight back at the station was - all races, nationalities and creed united, it was wonderful to see. Do you honestly think the situation would have been reported/accepted in such a favourable light if it was a station full of working-class Gammon? They would have been the scum of the earth, violent, racist, thugs attacking the peace loving saviours.

[Beanz]

It is not the case that the thousands who demonstrate and march with XR are all posh elite trustafarians, many are no different than you, teachers, plumbers, quarry workers, CEOs, pensioners, veterans, crusties, office workers, vets, engineers, dealers, benefit scroungers, gamblers, civil servants, council workers, etc.

The beauty of the fight back at the station was - all races, nationalities and creed united, it was wonderful to see. Do you honestly think the situation would have been reported/accepted in such a favourable light if it was a station full of working-class Gammon? They would have been the scum of the earth, violent, racist, thugs attacking the peace loving saviours.

Of course not, You can't tell a story in the mainstream press here without adopting a position, because you editor will not run with it, but it is equally true that the handful of billionaires running the show will be just as quick to misrepresent anyone depending on the agenda they have.