The Brexit Thread

[Kirkland Laing]

Even if they agree a deal it isn't a deal, it's just a standstill agreement. The "deal" means Britain stays inside the customs union for a couple of years while the terms and conditions of the actual deal are worked out. Just wait and see the shit Britain has to swallow to maintain access to the destination of hundreds of billions of its goods and the source of hundreds of billions more, not to mention all the jobs. It will become clear to even the most ardent Brexit supporter than the resulting deal will never be anywhere near as good for the UK as being part of the EU was. They're going to get extremely pissed off at somebody. It won't be themselves naturally.

Yes oh how you'll miss being under Germany's boot .....really would have been easier to just give up during the Blitz

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

[Beanz]

[El Kabong]

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49970267


What boot?

[Master]

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49970267


What boot?

That is old news. They did secure a deal which was voted down in parliament on Saturday. There is no boot here.

[El Kabong]

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49970267


What boot?

That is old news. They did secure a deal which was voted down in parliament on Saturday. There is no boot here.

Why does Merkel have a say at all?

[Master]

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49970267


What boot?

That is old news. They did secure a deal which was voted down in parliament on Saturday. There is no boot here.

Why does Merkel have a say at all?

Boris went around all of Europe's leaders even though there are negotiators that they must go through. There are 27 countries that need to agree.

[El Kabong]

Boris went around all of Europe's leaders even though there are negotiators that they must go through. There are 27 countries that need to agree.

27 other countries need to agree to ALLOW Britain to implement the will of their people.


Yes indeed, no boot at all

[Master]

Boris went around all of Europe's leaders even though there are negotiators that they must go through. There are 27 countries that need to agree.

27 other countries need to agree to ALLOW Britain to implement the will of their people.


Yes indeed, no boot at all

No, 27 countries need to agree a sensible deal with the UK so that it does not leave in a disorderly fashion.

Boris wants to rush it having no regard to the impact it will have on the country for many years to come.

[Kirkland Laing]

Boris went around all of Europe's leaders even though there are negotiators that they must go through. There are 27 countries that need to agree.

27 other countries need to agree to ALLOW Britain to implement the will of their people.


Yes indeed, no boot at all

Nothing is stopping Britain doing anything. Britain can walk away from the EU tomorrow just by sending a letter. But then they're out of the customs union and the economy falls off a cliff. Britain is getting a divorce from the EU and the other party in this divorce, the EU countries, have a say in this too. If you got a divorce and decided you'd keep the house and assets and would transfer all the joint debt into your wife's name you would not be able to do this. Because there are contract laws and you signed a contract with your wife. Same thing here. Britainhas to negotiate a mutually acceptable resolution with the union it's breaking away from. Even the fucking idiots running the country realise they can't just walk away.

[Kirkland Laing]

How is Britain under Germany's boot exactly?

Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49970267


What boot?

This was Boris last week setting Germany up to take the blame in the British press for Britain being unable to make a deal. This has zero bearing on whether Britain in the EU is in any way dominated by Germany. You can't find any evidence to support the ridiculous claim you made because there isn't any.

Boris released a bunch of private details from a conversation. The details were already well known for three years now, Merkel was just restating the position of the EU 27 countries which is that Britain would have to agree to Irish demands over the Northern Ireland border if Britain wanted to make a deal. Boris eventually agreed to the Irish demands. This is an object lesson for how negotiations will eventually work out when Britain leaves. It turns out that twenty seven countries working together are much more powerful than one country. And that one small country (Ireland), historically dominated/militarily occupied by another bigger country (Britain) is now much more powerful as a member of the twenty seven than the bigger country is by itself.

It's also a textbook example of how the press in Britain, which forms public opinion, works. Look how the negotiations have been covered over the past few years. This from January 2017:



Look how accurate that was. Now Boris caved to EU/Irish demands by agreeing a border in the Irish sea, something a year ago he and May and the rest of them had said a British government could never agree to, and the press is selling this as Boris gets the deal everybody said was impossible to get.