The Brexit Thread

[Gandalf]

Wars have indeed started for less and the Irish are proof that you should respect the right to be free. If people are blocked at the ballot box and occupied, then violence is often a consequential result. Nobody wants that, but it tends to happen when democracy is ignored.

My take is that anyone who considers themselves European only has to take a plane. The road is still open and the skies are free and sometimes blue. It is all free will at the end of the day and you can either stay and accept democracy or leave in protest. You cannot stomp your feet and cry about not getting your own way after a democratic vote.

You are a deluded fool. To think that you can't be both British and European is nonsense. All borders are an invention and not a natural state you Plum. Your street's border, your estate, your city, your county, your country, your continent, they are all just lines drawn by other men and your accident of birth does not much more than prove you are an earthling. You are trying a little too hard. Like many economic migrants you want to preserve the freedom to work, learn, love or educate yourself in somewhere other than your place of birth. to just you and people you imagine are like you.

It is very, very funny but has nothing to do with reality.

You don't live here, you don't pay taxes here, you didn't vote in the referendum and you don't even like the UK

The people stomping their feet and crying are the inept and corrupt Tory Government and people like you blaming anyone but themselves for wanting to smash up a cake and then bawl like a baby when they destroy their own slice in the process.

You do not like the UK whence voting against its sovereignty. Wars and violence have indeed started over less. You do not even believe a country has borders now. Listen to yourself. Most would disagree with you and suggest that attitudes like that are firmly anti British. Like it or not I am more English than much of your continental and seed sowing family.

I argue that economic migrants should apply for a working visa based upon the requirements of the host nation. It is how it works in the world Beanz. Those 'superficial' borders do matter as they contain cultures and systems of power.

The people crying are the likes of yourself going 'Wah. Donald wants my freebies'.

Ha! "I am more English than you and your continental seed sowing family"


Bless

Even your family name seems to have its origins in Germany as you are certainly not Scottish being from out East and it absurdly translates as 'gentle hearted' which is probably something worth disputing. You are European over British and admit it yet again by declaring that borders in essence do not mean very much.

[Fatboxingfan]

Gandalf now had ~ripped~ Beanz about that's Eurobeanz points.

[Beanz]

I repeat my point. Gandalf, You don't live here, you don't pay taxes here, you didn't vote in the referendum and you don't even like the UK. Your opinion on Brexit is neither here nor there and that is precisely why you have to keep bleating on about it. You are not just a weak, powerless feeble man. You are bitter with it. In spades full. Like most ACTUAL Brits even my own family is split on Brexit. Unlike you though, none of them are quite as stupid and myopic in thinking that selling out the UK to what was America, and is now swamp Trumpsville, will improve the UK . Quite the opposite, it will destroy it, along wit all it's history, culture and traditions, which you don't give a shit about .

Me pointing out exactly what borders are, does not mean that i do not believe a country has them. It merely explains that they are not some kind of guarantee of living happy ever after in your fantasy of a magic Kingdom.

[Dark Lord Al]

Come on Beanz we all know you are Polish/Kraut and some alien in there somewhere.
As the Heinz beans advert says.
Beanz Means Hynes.

[walrus]

I repeat my point. Gandalf, You don't live here, you don't pay taxes here, you didn't vote in the referendum and you don't even like the UK. Your opinion on Brexit is neither here nor there and that is precisely why you have to keep bleating on about it. You are not just a weak, powerless feeble man. You are bitter with it. In spades full. Like most ACTUAL Brits even my own family is split on Brexit. Unlike you though, none of them are quite as stupid and myopic in thinking that selling out the UK to what was America, and is now swamp Trumpsville, will improve the UK . Quite the opposite, it will destroy it, along wit all it's history, culture and traditions, which you don't give a shit about .

Me pointing out exactly what borders are, does not mean that i do not believe a country has them. It merely explains that they are not some kind of guarantee of living happy ever after in your fantasy of a magic Kingdom.

Using that logic you and Kirk should stfu about trump, yet you don’t. Stop being a hypocrite in your den of vipers

[Gandalf]

Wars have indeed started for less and the Irish are proof that you should respect the right to be free. If people are blocked at the ballot box and occupied, then violence is often a consequential result. Nobody wants that, but it tends to happen when democracy is ignored.

My take is that anyone who considers themselves European only has to take a plane. The road is still open and the skies are free and sometimes blue. It is all free will at the end of the day and you can either stay and accept democracy or leave in protest. You cannot stomp your feet and cry about not getting your own way after a democratic vote.

You are a deluded fool. To think that you can't be both British and European is nonsense. All borders are an invention and not a natural state you Plum. Your street's border, your estate, your city, your county, your country, your continent, they are all just lines drawn by other men and your accident of birth does not much more than prove you are an earthling. You are trying a little too hard. Like many economic migrants you want to preserve the freedom to work, learn, love or educate yourself in somewhere other than your place of birth. to just you and people you imagine are like you.

It is very, very funny but has nothing to do with reality.

You don't live here, you don't pay taxes here, you didn't vote in the referendum and you don't even like the UK

The people stomping their feet and crying are the inept and corrupt Tory Government and people like you blaming anyone but themselves for wanting to smash up a cake and then bawl like a baby when they destroy their own slice in the process.

You do not like the UK whence voting against its sovereignty. Wars and violence have indeed started over less. You do not even believe a country has borders now. Listen to yourself. Most would disagree with you and suggest that attitudes like that are firmly anti British. Like it or not I am more English than much of your continental and seed sowing family.

I argue that economic migrants should apply for a working visa based upon the requirements of the host nation. It is how it works in the world Beanz. Those 'superficial' borders do matter as they contain cultures and systems of power.

The people crying are the likes of yourself going 'Wah. Donald wants my freebies'.

Ha! "I am more English than you and your continental seed sowing family"


Bless

Even your family name seems to have its origins in Germany as you are certainly not Scottish being from out East and it absurdly translates as 'gentle hearted' which is probably something worth disputing. You are European over British and admit it yet again by declaring that borders in essence do not mean very much.

It is quite disgusting that you would go and google my surname in an effort to prove I am somehow not British despite myself and both my parents being born here. I stand by my assertion that you really are a deluded fool.


Last name: Hyne

This unusual surname is of early medieval English origin, and is an occupational name for a servant in a great household, from the Middle English "hine", lad, servant (originally a collective term for a body of servants, from the Olde English pre 7th Century "hiwan", household).






That is from my old mans side. You can race my mothers family back for hundreds of years here.

Interesting that because as you can see I hadn't searched your actual name at all. Yet you revealed your name instead. You may call me Baldrick with my cunning plans. Bwahahaha!

You have called yourself European, your family is European or spread there. Admit it, you are more European than more than half the country. Don't live in denial, sing it from the trees naked. If you can find any in England of course.

[Fatboxingfan]

Heinz Baked Beanz, he say he was a servant of a big house, so Beanz bring us a tea, chap! 🎩☂️🕓🔜 .... Is tea time on Big Ben!

[TitoFan]

Don't live in denial, sing it from the trees naked.

Or don't.

[Beanz]

Gandalf you need to take a long good look at yourself princess. Here you are berating me because after divorcing my English Mum in the seventies, my English old man chose to remarry somebody who was not English. That apparently is enough to make me not English in your eyes.

Fucking hell man. This is coming from you a supposed Englishman who moved to South Korea and chose to marry somebody who is not English, and has done nothing but moan about England for the last ten years, whilst choosing not to live here. My old man has lived all over because of his work and research, The Solomon Islands, The Philippines, Israel, Iran, India, Morocco, Cyprus etc but still lived more of his life here in England where he has chosen to retire. He is to a tee more English than you could ever hope to be. He also voted for Brexit but unlike you is not a complete and utter cunt.


I love Europe and consider Britain part of it. There are literally millions of us who do. We are no less British than those who do not. I love art, the Renaissance, the rococo, the romantics, the impressionists, gothic, baroque, neoclassicism, realism, expressionism, futurism, fauvism, cubism, dada, surrealism, postmodernism etc and all of these things are European. They are not the exclusive realm of Britain we made these great strides in art, just like we did in science and culture and music and philosophy, together, not as introverted , walled in, frightened rape spray carrying book readers. All my family, including my half siblings live here in the UK where they were born. Some may travel to Europe to work and study, just like many other bands and artists and actors and writers and business people go there to work and tour etc. Though now because of people like you who sit in there room and read a book it will be much harder.

We all know what you think about Brexit, but it doesn't make you any more British you gooseberry.

[walrus]

Gandalf you need to take a long good look at yourself princess. Here you are berating me because after divorcing my English Mum in the seventies, my English old man chose to remarry somebody who was not English. That apparently is enough to make me not English in your eyes.

Fucking hell man. This is coming from you a supposed Englishman who moved to South Korea and chose to marry somebody who is not English, and has done nothing but moan about England for the last ten years, whilst choosing not to live here. My old man has lived all over because of his work and research, The Solomon Islands, The Philippines, Israel, Iran, India, Morocco, Cyprus etc but still lived more of his life here in England where he has chosen to retire. He is to a tee more English than you could ever hope to be. He also voted for Brexit but unlike you is not a complete and utter cunt.


I love Europe and consider Britain part of it. There are literally millions of us who do. We are no less British than those who do not. I love art, the Renaissance, the rococo, the romantics, the impressionists, gothic, baroque, neoclassicism, realism, expressionism, futurism, fauvism, cubism, dada, surrealism, postmodernism etc and all of these things are European. They are not the exclusive realm of Britain we made these great strides in art, just like we did in science and culture and music and philosophy, together, not as introverted , walled in, frightened rape spray carrying book readers. All my family, including my half siblings live here in the UK where they were born. Some may travel to Europe to work and study, just like many other bands and artists and actors and writers and business people go there to work and tour etc. Though now because of people like you who sit in there room and read a book it will be much harder.

We all know what you think about Brexit, but it doesn't make you any more British you gooseberry.

Not one nod to the Beatles #fakeenglish

[Gandalf]

Gandalf you need to take a long good look at yourself princess. Here you are berating me because after divorcing my English Mum in the seventies, my English old man chose to remarry somebody who was not English. That apparently is enough to make me not English in your eyes.

Fucking hell man. This is coming from you a supposed Englishman who moved to South Korea and chose to marry somebody who is not English, and has done nothing but moan about England for the last ten years, whilst choosing not to live here. My old man has lived all over because of his work and research, The Solomon Islands, The Philippines, Israel, Iran, India, Morocco, Cyprus etc but still lived more of his life here in England where he has chosen to retire. He is to a tee more English than you could ever hope to be. He also voted for Brexit but unlike you is not a complete and utter cunt.


I love Europe and consider Britain part of it. There are literally millions of us who do. We are no less British than those who do not. I love art, the Renaissance, the rococo, the romantics, the impressionists, gothic, baroque, neoclassicism, realism, expressionism, futurism, fauvism, cubism, dada, surrealism, postmodernism etc and all of these things are European. They are not the exclusive realm of Britain we made these great strides in art, just like we did in science and culture and music and philosophy, together, not as introverted , walled in, frightened rape spray carrying book readers. All my family, including my half siblings live here in the UK where they were born. Some may travel to Europe to work and study, just like many other bands and artists and actors and writers and business people go there to work and tour etc. Though now because of people like you who sit in there room and read a book it will be much harder.

We all know what you think about Brexit, but it doesn't make you any more British you gooseberry.

I work where I do because that is where the work is. It is no different to your father and I too have married a foreigner. I too have spent the vast majority of my life in England, so that is not an argument either. Actually he does sound like a bit of a cunt if he married some kind of hardcore Cultist and left you to be a victim of child abuse in some Cult. But yes, I am indeed a complete and utter cunt for having never had a child foraging in the woods or indeed hurt a child in my entire life. Well, you are a bit of a child of course, but you are not human, so you don't count. If am a complete and utter cunt, then look in the mirror and smile because there you are too and you have to think of soup every time.

Britain has never been a part of Europe. It has traded with and had alliances with nations within, but it historically has not been part of Europe. Europe is not some great singular collective entity whence languages, cultures, wars, and numerous other things. I have a great respect for Italy, but I do not for a single moment think that we are the same. You can enjoy things from Europe without being European. I admire many American writers and musicians, but I could not pretend that I am American. It doesn't work like that and it does not mean I want the UK to be a 50 whatever state. However I do think there is overlap in many regards, but you would poo poo it and with open arms welcome in the Germans and their boxed in buddies. I simply believe Britain as an independent country is able to make its own decisions.

Why do you keep suggesting I sit in a room too? I do not understand this. Your wife probably sits in a room, but I do not. You just do not know me and continually project, but it is a falsehood Fritz. Do I read books? Of course I do. I do many things and have the time and resources to do them.

Things will only be more difficult if the EU chooses to make things difficult and that is what you choose? To be part of a bully network? Have a little backbone. I don't see other countries falling to pieces because they operate as Britain did for hundreds of years. You choose to be part of something just to avoid complications and seem to fear and loathe your country in some ways.

"Me pointing out exactly what borders are, does not mean that i do not believe a country has them. It merely explains that they are not some kind of guarantee of living happy ever after in your fantasy of a magic Kingdom."


Those borders are what keeps your culture, language, and commonality uniformed without being subverted and ultimately lost. Right there you reveal your entire agenda and that is why you are against the people of your country. You don't even think borders have meaning. You accept that a country has them, but ideologically you would like to see them go completely. That is not a good look.

[Gandalf]

Oh wait. So that is your actual name? I am sorry about that. It is a rather odd name, but in no way merits being called a 'racist bastard' in a rep comment. There are polite ways of doing things and you did after all tell us your name was Hynes.

[Fatboxingfan]

He said Hyne. Not Heinz. And was gracious enough to proactively offer his surname without even ever been having been asked. Also, if he negative repped you -- and I've have not raison to doubted you -- then that's was a privacy massage between those 2 of you. Why then to announcing it many times? Finally I don't support that's spergy commentation about @Beanz. Is a low blow to a personal things that one cannot do something about it. But when he said you are tall and skinny that's can BE a compliment.

[TitoFan]

He said Hyne. Not Heinz. And was gracious enough to proactively offer his surname without even ever been having been asked. Also, if he negative repped you -- and I've have not raison to doubted you -- then that's was a privacy massage between those 2 of you. Why then to announcing it many times? Finally I don't support that's spergy commentation about @Beanz. Is a low blow to a personal things that one cannot do something about it. But when he said you are tall and skinny that's can BE a compliment.

Why that's mighty gracious of
You... defending Beanz after he's accused you so many times
of being Brock. Why....
usually someone in your position would've attacked Beanz, but

admittedly you haven't, so props to you. But
really though, you are pumping up that post count there, Fats... pretty much
ensuring you'll reach 1,000 posts in record time.

Be that as it may, there as some striking similarities between Brock's posts and your own. You both have the same opinions on a wide
range of topics. Then
of course, that doesn't mean anything because you very well
could just be a new guy who enjoys just
knocking heads with the old timers.

So good on you.

[Gandalf]

He said Hyne. Not Heinz. And was gracious enough to proactively offer his surname without even ever been having been asked. Also, if he negative repped you -- and I've have not raison to doubted you -- then that's was a privacy massage between those 2 of you. Why then to announcing it many times? Finally I don't support that's spergy commentation about @Beanz. Is a low blow to a personal things that one cannot do something about it. But when he said you are tall and skinny that's can BE a compliment.

I believe expletive filled comments accusing people of daft things like racism when talking about Germans is in the public interest. It is not my fault he is named after a soup company.

Spergy is a new addition to my lexicon. Lyle taught me and Akkad reinforced it. It describes people with narrow vision rantiness. Just an insult.

Asperger's is a gut disorder and apparently can be addressed through diet and therapy. He can control his outbursts if he wants.

I have no choice in how I look either. He will accuse me of all sorts so to the bogs with him and his grotty ways.