Before more lies are spread let’s clear it up fans

[Beanz]

Another guy from the Russian states, another rant from Ronnie baby!

My wife is Ukrainian, been here less than a year. She would be very offended by you comparing a Ukrainian with a Russian, you know Russia is currently at war with the Ukrain right? Well, they deny it but in truth Russia is at war with the Ukraine.

But I appreciate your typical tactic that since you can’t debate the point you make it about the person. The lowest form of debate.

That is a bit rich coming from somebody who has repeatedly accused another poster of being not just a racist, but a klan member, for the big crime of simply not being a Hayman sychophant.

[Ron Swanson]

Beans

I don’t care one bit if people like Haymon. I care that one poster I can tell you his views every single time by knowing race and country. He’s been here years, show me one example of him breaking the premise that we know his views by race and country. One time and I’ll apologize. I’ve never seen one. Every single time for years. So yes. Of all the posters I accuse 1. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong. If there’s one thing I hate it’s racism. So please do provide some proof.

As for the point of the the thread, I told you the lies would come. I only ask as I did in the title that you acknowledge the lies and do not propagate them

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...-11188150/amp/

[Beanz]

Beans

I don’t care one bit if people like Haymon. I care that one poster I can tell you his views every single time by knowing race and country. He’s been here years, show me one example of him breaking the premise that we know his views by race and country. One time and I’ll apologize. I’ve never seen one. Every single time for years. So yes. Of all the posters I accuse 1. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong. If there’s one thing I hate it’s racism. So please do provide some proof.

As for the point of the the thread, I told you the lies would come. I only ask as I did in the title that you acknowledge the lies and do not propagate them

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...-11188150/amp/

The onus is on nobody but you. If you want to call somebody a racist then you should have a good reason for doing so not just the fact that your own prejudice and unabashed bias is using that as a way to discredit someone's perfectly rational argument. I don't have to show you anything, step out of your bubble and you will see it as clear as day. There are real racists here and they should be long gone, but Fenster the sardonic bastard that he is, is not one of them.

Sending a banana to a black person is out of order/proper racism, even a Klan man like me knows that, especially in a "football" pub at 10 at night. The young man would have understandably felt intimidated. Throwing bananas at black players comes from football culture, all but eradicated in the UK but still rife in Europe.

The reason the staff probably didn't realise the offense is because they're all Eastern Europeans.

Not sure what the cops can do now, but the very fact a young black man from south London voluntary went to the cops is incredible in itself (I almost don't trust the story because of that bit )

Did it ever occur to you guys that the translation from Russian to English is totally out of context? The same idiot boxing sites/youtubers spreading all the "dive" nonsense are providing you this "truth."

Come on boys.

It's just a fighter saying he wasn't at his best, for various reasons, but couldn't refuse the payday. Standard excuses.

Top Boy - watched it over the past couple of weeks, liked it because of where it was set (London shithole council estates), however, found it hard to have sympathy with the characters, especially season 3. I hated everyone apart from Sully (and the genuine innocent). And I don't want to make a political point but it's not a coincidence that season 3, after a decade gap in this current climate, portrays all the black single mothers as angels, the drug dealer loving dads/guardians as "hustling a living" whilst white people are to blame for everything and untrustworthy devils (even the poor skagheads were wronguns). And all whites outside London are racist as hell. Good stuff though.

A lot of whites outside London are racist as hell. I know I live amongst them (:

No Asian racists though. Not just in Britain. Nowhere in the world are there any racists Asians. I have it on good authority from ...................

A non-racist white man man

I can assure you Asian people of all description (not just Bruce Lee) are the most racist towards black people i've ever come across. And yes there's lots of white racists in London too... they're called East Europeans... and geriatrics.

[imp]

Funny how an old past it 36 year old Floyd fought a young Canelo but Loma is getting no flack for not fighting Haney..

Time for Loma to deal with this young lion and prove his P4P 1-3 status.

[Ron Swanson]

Beans

I don’t care one bit if people like Haymon. I care that one poster I can tell you his views every single time by knowing race and country. He’s been here years, show me one example of him breaking the premise that we know his views by race and country. One time and I’ll apologize. I’ve never seen one. Every single time for years. So yes. Of all the posters I accuse 1. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong. If there’s one thing I hate it’s racism. So please do provide some proof.

As for the point of the the thread, I told you the lies would come. I only ask as I did in the title that you acknowledge the lies and do not propagate them

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...-11188150/amp/

The onus is on nobody but you. If you want to call somebody a racist then you should have a good reason for doing so not just the fact that your own prejudice and unabashed bias is using that as a way to discredit someone's perfectly rational argument. I don't have to show you anything, step out of your bubble and you will see it as clear as day. There are real racists here and they should be long gone, but Fenster the sardonic bastard that he is, is not one of them.

Sending a banana to a black person is out of order/proper racism, even a Klan man like me knows that, especially in a "football" pub at 10 at night. The young man would have understandably felt intimidated. Throwing bananas at black players comes from football culture, all but eradicated in the UK but still rife in Europe.

The reason the staff probably didn't realise the offense is because they're all Eastern Europeans.

Not sure what the cops can do now, but the very fact a young black man from south London voluntary went to the cops is incredible in itself (I almost don't trust the story because of that bit )

Did it ever occur to you guys that the translation from Russian to English is totally out of context? The same idiot boxing sites/youtubers spreading all the "dive" nonsense are providing you this "truth."

Come on boys.

It's just a fighter saying he wasn't at his best, for various reasons, but couldn't refuse the payday. Standard excuses.

Top Boy - watched it over the past couple of weeks, liked it because of where it was set (London shithole council estates), however, found it hard to have sympathy with the characters, especially season 3. I hated everyone apart from Sully (and the genuine innocent). And I don't want to make a political point but it's not a coincidence that season 3, after a decade gap in this current climate, portrays all the black single mothers as angels, the drug dealer loving dads/guardians as "hustling a living" whilst white people are to blame for everything and untrustworthy devils (even the poor skagheads were wronguns). And all whites outside London are racist as hell. Good stuff though.

A lot of whites outside London are racist as hell. I know I live amongst them (:

No Asian racists though. Not just in Britain. Nowhere in the world are there any racists Asians. I have it on good authority from ...................

A non-racist white man man

I can assure you Asian people of all description (not just Bruce Lee) are the most racist towards black people i've ever come across. And yes there's lots of white racists in London too... they're called East Europeans... and geriatrics.

So him being offended black people were painted in a good light while white people were made to look bad(his words, I don’t know the show) is defense that he isn’t racist? It isn’t a single mother, it’s a single black mother, how dare they make her sympathetic. Again, I haven’t seen the show but from the description I would probably watch the show and consider it to be from someone else’s perspective and not get hung up that “white people...”. I would look at it on a person by person basis rather than lumping all the blacks together or all the whites together. Silly me

Does anyone care to deny the point of the thread? I told you all the lies were coming. And here they are.

[Ron Swanson]

Since nobody denies that Loma’s team is lying. Let’s proceed to the next step.

You can acknowledge this is a lie. We know they formally requested to be made a protection champ because the WBC acknowledged it months ago so when they say they didn’t we can call them on the lie

There may be more lies along the way but the important one is we have to consistently deny their claims that they will fight for undisputed. They dumped their belt, they can not be undisputed.

And a certain population, at least one, will continue to claim Haney’s belt is paper. But Loma’s was legit. Consider this, did Loma fight a champion to get his? Did Haney? No, neither did. But Haney’s is MORE legitimate if not completely because he earned the mandatory spot and the champion refused to fight him. Loma just fought some guy. And more importantly, Haney defended it. Maybe not fully legit but clearly more legit. So don’t let those people that want to push the lie tear down Haney to build their guy up, to excuse him for his protection belt. There is no excuse for Franchise Champions. Be it Loma, or Canelo

[Alpha]

we have to consistently deny their claims that they will fight for undisputed. They dumped their belt, they can not be undisputed

What do you consider undisputed in this day and age?

[Fenster]

Beans

I don’t care one bit if people like Haymon. I care that one poster I can tell you his views every single time by knowing race and country. He’s been here years, show me one example of him breaking the premise that we know his views by race and country. One time and I’ll apologize. I’ve never seen one. Every single time for years. So yes. Of all the posters I accuse 1. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong. If there’s one thing I hate it’s racism. So please do provide some proof.

As for the point of the the thread, I told you the lies would come. I only ask as I did in the title that you acknowledge the lies and do not propagate them

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...-11188150/amp/

The onus is on nobody but you. If you want to call somebody a racist then you should have a good reason for doing so not just the fact that your own prejudice and unabashed bias is using that as a way to discredit someone's perfectly rational argument. I don't have to show you anything, step out of your bubble and you will see it as clear as day. There are real racists here and they should be long gone, but Fenster the sardonic bastard that he is, is not one of them.

Sending a banana to a black person is out of order/proper racism, even a Klan man like me knows that, especially in a "football" pub at 10 at night. The young man would have understandably felt intimidated. Throwing bananas at black players comes from football culture, all but eradicated in the UK but still rife in Europe.

The reason the staff probably didn't realise the offense is because they're all Eastern Europeans.

Not sure what the cops can do now, but the very fact a young black man from south London voluntary went to the cops is incredible in itself (I almost don't trust the story because of that bit )

Did it ever occur to you guys that the translation from Russian to English is totally out of context? The same idiot boxing sites/youtubers spreading all the "dive" nonsense are providing you this "truth."

Come on boys.

It's just a fighter saying he wasn't at his best, for various reasons, but couldn't refuse the payday. Standard excuses.

Top Boy - watched it over the past couple of weeks, liked it because of where it was set (London shithole council estates), however, found it hard to have sympathy with the characters, especially season 3. I hated everyone apart from Sully (and the genuine innocent). And I don't want to make a political point but it's not a coincidence that season 3, after a decade gap in this current climate, portrays all the black single mothers as angels, the drug dealer loving dads/guardians as "hustling a living" whilst white people are to blame for everything and untrustworthy devils (even the poor skagheads were wronguns). And all whites outside London are racist as hell. Good stuff though.

A lot of whites outside London are racist as hell. I know I live amongst them (:

No Asian racists though. Not just in Britain. Nowhere in the world are there any racists Asians. I have it on good authority from ...................

A non-racist white man man

I can assure you Asian people of all description (not just Bruce Lee) are the most racist towards black people i've ever come across. And yes there's lots of white racists in London too... they're called East Europeans... and geriatrics.

So him being offended black people were painted in a good light while white people were made to look bad(his words, I don’t know the show) is defense that he isn’t racist? It isn’t a single mother, it’s a single black mother, how dare they make her sympathetic. Again, I haven’t seen the show but from the description I would probably watch the show and consider it to be from someone else’s perspective and not get hung up that “white people...”. I would look at it on a person by person basis rather than lumping all the blacks together or all the whites together. Silly me

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence or integrity can see my comments were specifically to highlight the difference in zeitgeist (current climate) between the first series of Top Boy and 3rd - which was made 10 years later.

London is currently rife with drug/knife/gang crime, with black single mothers and absent single dads held up as part of the problem along with people in power - government. Acid attacks weren't heard of back then. Turk/Cypriot drug barons were the daddy. Eastern European gangs moved in. The whole demographic changed. "Black" areas became "white" and "white" became "black." Middle-class/Rich "white" people buy more drugs than anyone else. These are real life topics the drama incorporated during the current era it was set, my only point was it became a little stereotypical.

I wasn't "offended" by the portrayal of any character in the drama.