India is choking to death - why isnt Greta over there?

[Beanz]

I probably shot my first Rabbit before your tiny feet walked on this planet mate, but just go ahead and assume you are a unique little broflake from one of Petersons acceptable Disney fillums

And it is not an insult to remark on the fact that you do spread bullshit on an industrial scale here on the forum, much like Trump and your country does with intensive farming which is not great for anyone. It is just a fact. Look at the Trump thread it is about 87.9% Fake news

There's just no fucking use even attempting to discuss ANYTHING with you. I don't care what your issues are, but you're a a complete and utter asshole to the overwhelming majority of posters here. Blame it on everyone just misunderstanding you and reading anger into posts that totally aren't filled with it, I don't give a fuck....but I AM 100% done with your constant insult slinging.


The average American farmer today feeds 155 people, in 1960 a farmer only fed 26 people. Care to revisit that "which is not great for anyone" quote?


"Look at the Trump thread" .....where are we now? Are we in that thread? Want me to bring up other threads that you've gone bonkers in? You are here for the sole purpose of white knighting for some dumb ass dutch teenager who lives a life of privilege none of us here would ever know the first thing about. She's talking about political action which....and I can't stress this ENOUGH......would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. ......yeah No beef, that's going to be a problem. No big farms, while I personally am not a fan of them, they feed MILLIONS of people and so putting the kibosh on those would see many a person starve....do you want that? Well either you want THAT or you like Greta believe in unicorns and maybe one day you'll live in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane.


"I shot my first rabbit".....oh you feed your family with the Skittles of the forest do ya?

You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

[Fatboxingfan]

5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
Climate alarmists who leave, step back from, or even lightly criticize the movement are immediately subjected to vicious smear campaigns. Dutch professor Richard Tol experienced this phenomenon firsthand when he removed his name from an IPCC climate report and criticized the reports excessively apocalyptic predictions.
The smear campaign was led by Bob Ward, director of policy at the London School of Economics’ Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change ‘This has all the characteristics of a smear campaign”, Tol said. “It’s all about taking away my credibility as an expert.”
The treatment of Professor Tol is not uncommon, and clearly demonstrates that the Climate Change movement exhibits the fifth warning sign for unsafe groups.

[El Kabong]

You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

All I did was laugh at the insane idea that CO2 is going to destroy the Earth and ....hold on, allow me to let you explain how things happened "I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it."

I defend factory farms not for myself....again I DON'T DEFEND THEM FOR MYSELF I defend them because while yeah they do cause for a number of problems they also feed a lot of people which I must have missed this part Beanz....how will you and Greta feed those people reliant on cheap available sources of meat and vegetable? I'm only slightly curious as it's not like millions upon millions of people depend on food from these farms or anything.


Where again do you shop, what do you buy again? I don't believe you ever answered me...I know how difficult direct questions are for you. I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself It is just a FACT.

But don't let that stop you, you never have, just keep on AGAIN. Do the same old bullshit, time after time and expect different results.

All I did was laugh and then ask a few questions and here we are. And all you can do is rock in a fetal position and tout the policies of some robotic little dutch child who has done what? Been used as a puppet by her famous parents to garner attention for THEM? Her specific idiosyncrasies and personality make up (I'd say developmental troubles, but I digress, I'm putting the kid gloves on and being overly kind in this) have been exploited by her parents and the rabid fanatics who espouse this green bullshit....her having suicidal thoughts is only a positive for them, they may as well have said "Obey us or we'll shoot innocent puppies".....but YOU defend them doing this by white knighting for Greta.


She's been exploited but you don't care, you identify with her, you swallow whole HER view on the environment which is 'the world isn't going to end in 12 years but we're going to pass irreversible tipping points' ..... rrrrrright, according to the same scientists who have been predicting doom and gloom since before Greta was a glimmer in her father's eye. But hey eventually they'll be right and won't we all feel sorry then.


Never you worry though Beanz, don't bother answering the direct questions put to you again...I know how you're not one to let go of a thing like that when you think I haven't addressed something to your standard.

Go solar and wind and ban fossil fuels...that costs money and will also cost a great many lives and you say what to that? Nothing? "Tough" "hate it for you" "sucks to be you" what is your response to that FACT. I know where I live if there's no AC, well a heap of old people, little babies, and the infirmed will more than likely die....and your take is?

Ban beef and air travel and factory farms.....according to Google "The world consumed 129.5 billion pounds of beef in 2016." so that's what a few million folks either starving or malnourished. No air travel so what is that replaced with? No factory farms so that means food is more expensive and there's a lot less of it....yeah only good can come from that.


Your solutions? I mean BESIDES calling me names and being not even angry. I'll wait for them....tell me brilliant one, what is YOUR plan? What is Greta the Great's plan?

[Fatboxingfan]

This is getting rather nasty all around. But I really liked that verb "white-knighting" 🤭

[Beanz]

This is getting rather nasty all around. But I really liked that verb "white-knighting" ������

Get fucked Brock you bulb headed shit stirring cunt. Go back and read the first four posts of YOUR thread, and then tell me with a straight face there was nothing 'nasty' about four grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl. Feeble as fuck. Your daughters must be so proud of you all.

[TitoFan]

This is getting rather nasty all around. But I really liked that verb "white-knighting" ������

Get fucked Brock you bulb headed shit stirring cunt. Go back and read the first four posts of YOUR thread, and then tell me with a straight face there was nothing 'nasty' about four grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl. Feeble as fuck. Your daughters must be so proud of you all.

Actually the first four posts have three "grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl."

Still.... many others have weighed in on one form or another basically to state their opinion which is basically not on the side of Greta. Not sure whether that constitutes "attacking and slagging off" or not.

Some have done so quietly and without risk of engaging in a heated exchange.

[Beanz]

You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

All I did was laugh at the insane idea that CO2 is going to destroy the Earth and ....hold on, allow me to let you explain how things happened "I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it."

I defend factory farms not for myself....again I DON'T DEFEND THEM FOR MYSELF I defend them because while yeah they do cause for a number of problems they also feed a lot of people which I must have missed this part Beanz....how will you and Greta feed those people reliant on cheap available sources of meat and vegetable? I'm only slightly curious as it's not like millions upon millions of people depend on food from these farms or anything.


Where again do you shop, what do you buy again? I don't believe you ever answered me...I know how difficult direct questions are for you. I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself It is just a FACT.

But don't let that stop you, you never have, just keep on AGAIN. Do the same old bullshit, time after time and expect different results.

All I did was laugh and then ask a few questions and here we are. And all you can do is rock in a fetal position and tout the policies of some robotic little dutch child who has done what? Been used as a puppet by her famous parents to garner attention for THEM? Her specific idiosyncrasies and personality make up (I'd say developmental troubles, but I digress, I'm putting the kid gloves on and being overly kind in this) have been exploited by her parents and the rabid fanatics who espouse this green bullshit....her having suicidal thoughts is only a positive for them, they may as well have said "Obey us or we'll shoot innocent puppies".....but YOU defend them doing this by white knighting for Greta.


She's been exploited but you don't care, you identify with her, you swallow whole HER view on the environment which is 'the world isn't going to end in 12 years but we're going to pass irreversible tipping points' ..... rrrrrright, according to the same scientists who have been predicting doom and gloom since before Greta was a glimmer in her father's eye. But hey eventually they'll be right and won't we all feel sorry then.


Never you worry though Beanz, don't bother answering the direct questions put to you again...I know how you're not one to let go of a thing like that when you think I haven't addressed something to your standard.

Go solar and wind and ban fossil fuels...that costs money and will also cost a great many lives and you say what to that? Nothing? "Tough" "hate it for you" "sucks to be you" what is your response to that FACT. I know where I live if there's no AC, well a heap of old people, little babies, and the infirmed will more than likely die....and your take is?

Ban beef and air travel and factory farms.....according to Google "The world consumed 129.5 billion pounds of beef in 2016." so that's what a few million folks either starving or malnourished. No air travel so what is that replaced with? No factory farms so that means food is more expensive and there's a lot less of it....yeah only good can come from that.


Your solutions? I mean BESIDES calling me names and being not even angry. I'll wait for them....tell me brilliant one, what is YOUR plan? What is Greta the Great's plan?

Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

[El Kabong]

Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

Yeah Greta's ego is one of those things that's bigger than me. If I was asked questions I'd answer them. What am I deflecting? I'm stating how things work on planet Earth because you seem to genuinely not understand that the agenda these Greenies are calling for the entire world* (bar India and China) adopting has some very serious real consequences and you NOT addressing that seems short sighted and silly.



Ask nicely?




OK Beanz...dear poster, many blessings upon you, and thank you for taking your precious time to answer the questions I humbly ask:

1. how will you and others attempt to feed the population of Earth without factory farms and domestic cattle?

2. what will replace fossil fuels since wind and solar are simply not efficient enough to fully replace them?

3. is it morally right to utilize a child that is differently abled/has a developmental disorder in order to prove a point/champion a cause which she may have been brainwashed into believing?


....thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration, I await your response most humble gentle kind poster

[Beanz]

Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

Yeah Greta's ego is one of those things that's bigger than me. If I was asked questions I'd answer them. What am I deflecting? I'm stating how things work on planet Earth because you seem to genuinely not understand that the agenda these Greenies are calling for the entire world* (bar India and China) adopting has some very serious real consequences and you NOT addressing that seems short sighted and silly.



Ask nicely?




OK Beanz...dear poster, many blessings upon you, and thank you for taking your precious time to answer the questions I humbly ask:

1. how will you and others attempt to feed the population of Earth without factory farms and domestic cattle?

2. what will replace fossil fuels since wind and solar are simply not efficient enough to fully replace them?

3. is it morally right to utilize a child that is differently abled/has a developmental disorder in order to prove a point/champion a cause which she may have been brainwashed into believing?


....thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration, I await your response most humble gentle kind poster

Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

[Fatboxingfan]

Beanz's nastiness is off the charts. Cursing, demeaning, name calling, insulting, what a gentleman. You feel sorry for our daughters? I feel sorry for your daughter.

[Beanz]

Beanz's nastiness is off the charts. Cursing, demeaning, name calling, insulting, what a gentleman. You feel sorry for our daughters? I feel sorry for your daughter.

How do you even know I have a daughter Brock you fucking eggplant headed fucktard? I am not the one taking pot shots at a 16yr old for having the temerity to leave her room and exercise her right to free speech and protest.

What a sad excuse for a man

[Beanz]

Beanz's nastiness is off the charts. Cursing, demeaning, name calling, insulting, what a gentleman. You feel sorry for our daughters? I feel sorry for your daughter.

I wouldn't worry about India, you were choking and gagging on Als cock as soon as he called a 16yr old a 'media cunt' so you are fooling nobody with your phoney outrage at me not being a gentleman.

What a fucking rotter.

[El Kabong]

Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

What would you like me to call these extremists? I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you. Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate? Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


You answered your own question is not an answer to my question from you. But if that's how you want to leave it I am more than pleased to leave it that way because it shows you've got no answer you've got no solution and that's the point all you have is this is wrong with Society that's wrong with Society this is wrong with how things are that's wrong with how things are and you never ever ever have answers.

Please blindly naively childishly follow this to your own end you will have no one to blame but yourself. I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.

[Beanz]

Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

What would you like me to call these extremists? I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you. Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate? Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


You answered your own question is not an answer to my question from you. But if that's how you want to leave it I am more than pleased to leave it that way because it shows you've got no answer you've got no solution and that's the point all you have is this is wrong with Society that's wrong with Society this is wrong with how things are that's wrong with how things are and you never ever ever have answers.

Please blindly naively childishly follow this to your own end you will have no one to blame but yourself. I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.

I will indulge you. You will still be mightily offended that there are millions of people in the world who are nothing like you but hey ho, at least you will maybe drop the attitude and alpha male bullshit for once and realise that not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy that threatens YOU.


What would you like me to call these extremists?

You can anyone anything you like. You don't then get the right to no reply though, it is as simple as that. They are just people. People from all professions, backgrounds and walks of life but all sharing in common the fact that they are concerned that massive corporations and governments are destroying the only planet we all have. You have put your shoulder behind extremists. That is the over riding narrative that 'Conservatives' like yourself have espoused for decades now. Protest and challenge of the status quo is mocked by you. You have NEVER come up with alternatives only mocked anything that challenged the same old, same old. The American led version of hyper capitalism is fucked and you as an extremist continue to live in denial, defending a Globalist figure head of that celebrity vacuous debased billionaire culture, in your Reality TV show President, who is personally responsible for demanding that the science be banned and buried so that you can all continue to indulge your extremist dream. Wake up.


I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you.

Not at all. Few people I meet or work with are very much like me. I don't think that makes them weird. I am not the one who has spent the last 14yrs on a forum grimacing and screaming about how weird and frightening I find so many people. The weird lefties and feminazis and trans rights and actors and academics etc that keep you awake at night could fill a Yellow Pages. So no, not weird just incredibly narrow minded and belligerent to the point of being paranoid simply because others do not agree with your rather childlike world view.


Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Now that is a bit of a weird attitude. She is a 16 year old. If you think your rights and productivity as a fucking insurance salesman ffs are 'under attack' from somebody urging others to hold politicians and people in power to account you need to work you way up the ladder a bit and try to aim for being a snowflake. It will no doubt improve your fragile resilience.

Trustafarian ? You sound like the twats who when all the schoolkids came out on the international climate strike were screaming 'Get a job' at 12 yr olds . Like you i bet most of them subscribed to Carl Benjamin and PJW. Amazing how bitter somebody who is such a painfully embarrassing wannabe sophisticate hipster like you should have such an issue with her parents being successful. An opera singer and an actor are now being described as though they are both sponging wasters and the elite in the same breath. The jealousy and reverse snobbery that abounds about careers like theirs is frankly very weird and illuminating of those who castigate them.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate?


The less fortunate? I thought you were both a wild hunstman of the woods and a friend of astronauts ? There is no argument for factory farming on the industrial scale that is common in America. In Europe and especially in the UK it would be illegal to use those kinds of methods, so don't bullshit us all with the idea that is progress. Fuck your virtue signalling on behalf of the 'less fortunate' ha! People are kept poor as a result of the politics you have been advocating for years, so get the fuck out of here with the false concern. Everyone eats too much meat. It is not expensive to eat more veg and I am not a vegan or vegetarian either. I am though surrounded by farms. Have family and friends working on those farms and have never had any of those farmers suggest that they could not feed people despite not adopting the factory farming model you lie about being inevitable.


Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


Fuck me you have a lot of time to waste. I will come back and answer the rest after this one.


It is hilarious. Like the nose on your face you cannot even see it can you?

You are a massive fucking shouty lecturing, hectoring proponent of Brexit. Of a no deal hard Brexit. Of a imposition of an immediate crash of the British Economy on which food prices will not only rocket but availability to fresh produce will be hammered to satisfy your own phobia of Europe. And you are not even British.

You don't give a shit about people dying mate you boast about it. Now you are trying to suggest that i don't care? Make your mind up am I a SJW or am i a hyper capitalist heartless cunt like you?

My Mrs with one hand in a wheelchair make Lasagne for the homeless or her Dad when he is in Hospital, so I would be a pretty shitty hypocrite if I did not help and put my money where my mouth is. If i do a charity contract I will always give at least a 25% discount on the quote if not do it as a freebie. So yeah I kind of do care and i would assume most people do.

Even you

You always assume the worst of people. Too much weed mate.

I will address the next questions you raise in the nest post when i get five minutes but who is this bit addressed to?

I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.


Me? or a 16yr old girl on a gap year?
I mean I have no wish to disavow you of your misplaced notions but if you are genuinely interested in real work, challenges and little pet projects (lol) i can maybe help you understand.

[Gandalf]

Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

Yeah Greta's ego is one of those things that's bigger than me. If I was asked questions I'd answer them. What am I deflecting? I'm stating how things work on planet Earth because you seem to genuinely not understand that the agenda these Greenies are calling for the entire world* (bar India and China) adopting has some very serious real consequences and you NOT addressing that seems short sighted and silly.



Ask nicely?




OK Beanz...dear poster, many blessings upon you, and thank you for taking your precious time to answer the questions I humbly ask:

1. how will you and others attempt to feed the population of Earth without factory farms and domestic cattle?

2. what will replace fossil fuels since wind and solar are simply not efficient enough to fully replace them?

3. is it morally right to utilize a child that is differently abled/has a developmental disorder in order to prove a point/champion a cause which she may have been brainwashed into believing?


....thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration, I await your response most humble gentle kind poster

Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

Personal attack.