2019 UK General Election

[Gandalf]

Thank you for the clarification because your first post felt cryptic to me.

Migrants contribute through taxes and of course it has been less than people born in the country but they can not help that.

The government has reduced corporation tax and these loopholes do need to be closed. The amount of money lost is astronomical, yet the government cuts even more over the past 10 years. Now it is making all these big spending promises because of the general election.

Cryptic? Come on man.

Would you say when it comes to taxation and spending that migrants are more often a net positive, neutral, or net negative? In 2012 the Telegraph said 370,000 migrants were on benefits. Now you attempt a Google search as I have and you see plenty of articles on the benefits of EUROPEAN migrants, but it's fairly difficult to find numbers for OTHER groups and their contributions if any to Great Britain.


Well the only way taxation loopholes get closed is by electing folks who won't include them in their policies. I'm glad we agree on that. Surely SOME spending could be cut right? I mean I don't look at the government and say "Damn, that is a tightly run ship and nary a penny is wasted!" in fact i'm likely to say quite the opposite.

Post EU migration is a massive net loss and that is now the majority of immigration. They take more and use more and year after year it continues. Labour and Tory have no answers. The EU is an issue, but British identity will be the issue of coming decades.

[Fatboxingfan]

British have no more identity.

[Gandalf]

British have no more identity.

There is an identity, but it is under serious threat due to the workings of open borders and Cultural Marxism. Nobody should come in unless they have an education and a visa for a job and once that job is done home you go, unless you truly want to integrate which means marrying into the society and making that society part of you. The problem has been in being way too soft on everything, but I think Labour will certainly learn a hard lesson in this election and then maybe it will be the Tories next if things carry on.

[Master]

Tories have been in 10 years, how much more carry on do you need?

[Gandalf]

Tories have been in 10 years, how much more carry on do you need?

I don't like the Tories but Brexit has to be done. Once that is settled the issue then becomes immigration and migrant caps. Labour simply has no way around these issues and has become the protest party of minorities that abandoned the traditional working classes, opened the borders, brought in hate speech laws, and further melded with the EU.

At least the Tories are saying Brexit which is a start, but obviously I would prefer a no deal Brexit. However, the system has sabotaged any possibility of that. The Tories are no alternative, but to deliver Brexit would be a start. If they fail, then boot them out. This election is the Brexit election.

The NHS etc is a side show until people start to be realistic about what is debilitating the NHS.

[Master]

What is debilitating the NHS, Education, and Housing is the Tories. They are using Brexit as a cover for their incompetence and austerity which has hurt the most vulnerable in society.

[Gandalf]

What is debilitating the NHS, Education, and Housing is the Tories. They are using Brexit as a cover for their incompetence and austerity which has hurt the most vulnerable in society.

Hospitals will treat anyone who comes in. Here there is medical tourism but you pay for it upfront. The UK has a system that is fully funded, but is dealing with millions of people more and from beyond the EU people are basically not paying their share and getting classrooms and healthcare.

Now if you want to carry on like that and ignore that it is a big problem then good for you, but the system will collapse. And good on that Watson Deputy leader for reversing his diabetes. Some of that self responsibility will go a long way too.

Ask Fenster about hospitals in London. It sounds like a free for all. I believe that the system is for British people and people coming in should be denied coverage until they have paid in and until then should be privately insured.

If you cannot afford it then you are probably not a very worthwhile immigrant.

[Beanz]

British have no more identity.

Says a lying American alt poster pretending to be French in a thread about the UK election.


Fuck off you toxic cunt.