2019 UK General Election

[Gandalf]

Tories have been in 10 years, how much more carry on do you need?

I don't like the Tories but Brexit has to be done. Once that is settled the issue then becomes immigration and migrant caps. Labour simply has no way around these issues and has become the protest party of minorities that abandoned the traditional working classes, opened the borders, brought in hate speech laws, and further melded with the EU.

At least the Tories are saying Brexit which is a start, but obviously I would prefer a no deal Brexit. However, the system has sabotaged any possibility of that. The Tories are no alternative, but to deliver Brexit would be a start. If they fail, then boot them out. This election is the Brexit election.

The NHS etc is a side show until people start to be realistic about what is debilitating the NHS.

[Master]

What is debilitating the NHS, Education, and Housing is the Tories. They are using Brexit as a cover for their incompetence and austerity which has hurt the most vulnerable in society.

[Gandalf]

What is debilitating the NHS, Education, and Housing is the Tories. They are using Brexit as a cover for their incompetence and austerity which has hurt the most vulnerable in society.

Hospitals will treat anyone who comes in. Here there is medical tourism but you pay for it upfront. The UK has a system that is fully funded, but is dealing with millions of people more and from beyond the EU people are basically not paying their share and getting classrooms and healthcare.

Now if you want to carry on like that and ignore that it is a big problem then good for you, but the system will collapse. And good on that Watson Deputy leader for reversing his diabetes. Some of that self responsibility will go a long way too.

Ask Fenster about hospitals in London. It sounds like a free for all. I believe that the system is for British people and people coming in should be denied coverage until they have paid in and until then should be privately insured.

If you cannot afford it then you are probably not a very worthwhile immigrant.

[Gandalf]

25 years of open borders is how many houses needed? 10 million? House prices have more than doubled in that time. It all adds up. When is enough enough for you chaps. Carry on, carry on.

[Master]

Open borders is not the reason for the problems on NHS, Education, and Housing it is Tory austerity measures.

Their Brexit plan is a very bad deal rushed through because they are embarrassed they have not got it through for 3 ½ years.
Wake up.

[Fatboxingfan]

Unskiller immigrants are a burdern

[Gandalf]

Open borders is not the reason for the problems on NHS, Education, and Housing it is Tory austerity measures.

Their Brexit plan is a very bad deal rushed through because they are embarrassed they have not got it through for 3 ½ years.
Wake up.

It is a huge factor and the left is in denial. If you have a health problem and not a lot of money of course you would manipulate a country that offers free cake. There was a guy in Thailand who stayed there for cancer treatment and everyone was saying 'Go home'. He didn't and is fighting there. It cost a fortune, but was the moral decision. How many people who haven't paid in have abused the NHS? We have heard countless stories of how the hospitals won't refuse treatment regardless of the patient. Plus once you are settled it is there for the taking. You would not have these issues if you charged for those who have not been resident AND working full time for a minimim of 3 years. Health tourism without full payment should be abolished.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/84...Meirion-Thomas