2019 UK General Election

[Gandalf]

Corbyn is the fault for English Obesite. Pasta Corbynara and Chicken Corbynbleu.

Corbyn is at fault for immigration, health, obesity and he is not the prime minister. Genius logic. What else will you blame him for?

He stayed with the party that opened the borders, has no plan to close the borders, and is thus at a dead end with voters in that regard. He also flip flopped on Brexit and the referendum. Tied by an awful party of course, so why would you vote for an awful party. There is no reason why a party cannot be stronger on immigration AND have sensible economic policies. Free Internet for all is one of the most pointless nationalizations ever, so that isn't exactly helping. Can people not afford the Internet now? Just weird. Trains fine, but Labour is getting silly. People have enough with the minimum wage, so how about cutting VAT or something sensible? How about doing away with taxes that hurt the poor the most. I think there is something to be said for letting you keep what you earn and making your own decisions with your money. It is good to give ordinary people agency and choice and that way they can choose poverty or to make a few better decisions. It is the same with their weight and all of that. All choices, good or bad.

They could learn a lot from here when it came to electing a left wing leader who bought votes with candy offerings......the economy sank. And all that promise to increase wages resulted in many jobs being axed or mechanized. There is something called moderation and the trouble with politics is that people will say and do anything to get in without thinking through the long term consequences. The Tories too as more money for the NHS is like sinking money into a black hole. If there is not enough housing there is a good reason for it, but nobody wants to hear it.

[Gandalf]

Oh my goodness, it is far beyond what I ever realized. The Labour Manifesto is a disaster. It will sink the UK far more than a no deal Brexit ever could. Some terrible policies in there. It is basically a vote bribe and people should not fall for it. If you want to help poor people then half VAT immediately. There is no reason for 10 pounds an hour in the UK for doing the most menial of work going. The direct result will be unemployment while the borders remain open. Ghastly and cruel really. Reduce the voting age to 16? People who have never contributed or worked do not deserve a vote. It is almost comical.

[Master]

Why should Corbyn leave a party that he has always been with and change it from within?

His policy of Brexit respects both sides and it is the Tories that have not implemented Brexit over 3 years. In fact it is there mess that started the whole thing in the first place.

Labour is aiming to help the poorest in society but you cannot even write that down because you are so hell bent and focused on immigration and single parents.

[Gandalf]

Why should Corbyn leave a party that he has always been with and change it from within?

His policy of Brexit respects both sides and it is the Tories that have not implemented Brexit over 3 years. In fact it is there mess that started the whole thing in the first place.

Labour is aiming to help the poorest in society but you cannot even write that down because you are so hell bent and focused on immigration and single parents.

They already tried to do the pay increase bribe here and it has failed terribly. Youth unemployment went through the roof and small business owners simply mechanized or stopped hiring. It doesn't work. 10 pounds an hour is a lot of money for stacking shelves.

I argue that reducing harmful taxes like VAT on things like food is better for ordinary people. Let people keep what they earn rather than take away their jobs which is what the result will be with 10 pounds an hour. It is not only bad, but with open borders, quite reckless. What is the minimum wage in Poland and are there not about 3 quarters of a million Poles in the UK. That is what British people could be having.

[Gandalf]

Many of the foods poor people eat are VAT charged and it is a tax that mostly hits the poor as they end up spending proportionally more of their income on it through that and other regular items. The fat woman probably spent a lot of tax looking kike that.

Government is a free for all with taxes and Labour wants more. I would abolish VAT on everything. Minimize government and have people command their own resources. If they want to eat takeaway then fine, but also not have a free at the point of use health care system.

Basically the UK is in a hole now as they cannot reverse decades of poor policies. Demographics and culture is changing and Fats is right that as time passes what is English will diminish. And then what? That is the big question. People should not be afraid to ask it. It will happen in a couple of decades.