South Korea #1 OECD Suicide Leader

[walrus]

In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

You are a compulsive liar. My brother in law is an independent baker running his own operation and does very well. He employs 3 other people and has invested well. Many people encourage their children to go into cuisine and baking and I actually teach a group learning that very trade. I don't think anyone has considered it embarrassing. My sister in law is likewise a hair stylist and once you have your own little set up going on, it pays well too. I am not sure you really saw very much reality in your '3 weeks' as these ideas exist mostly in your head and these trades can pay very well. The jobs people do tend to be the same kind of jobs people do in any developed country and most people are not exactly killing themselves.

Worry more about your own life rather than some Kpop singer that you didn't even know existed until the last 24 hours.

Miles it does seem South Korea has a very high suicide rate, perhaps it’s lack of diversity.

[Gandalf]

In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

You are a compulsive liar. My brother in law is an independent baker running his own operation and does very well. He employs 3 other people and has invested well. Many people encourage their children to go into cuisine and baking and I actually teach a group learning that very trade. I don't think anyone has considered it embarrassing. My sister in law is likewise a hair stylist and once you have your own little set up going on, it pays well too. I am not sure you really saw very much reality in your '3 weeks' as these ideas exist mostly in your head and these trades can pay very well. The jobs people do tend to be the same kind of jobs people do in any developed country and most people are not exactly killing themselves.

Worry more about your own life rather than some Kpop singer that you didn't even know existed until the last 24 hours.

Miles it does seem South Korea has a very high suicide rate, perhaps it’s lack of diversity.

There is diversity, but you wouldn't notice due to the majority of migrants being other Asians, mainly Chinese and others.

When we talk about suicide we are talking about a very small percentage of the population. Every case is different. It might sound harsh but I prefer a society where people choose to take their own lives rather than the lives of others. Both are extreme and undesirable, but at least one does not kill people who do not want to die. I know that sounds a bit odd, but better for a mass shooter to top himself than shoot 20 on the way down. Plus with drugs and alcohol the US suicide rate is very high except you call it internal bleeding or accidental or what have you. It was still reckless behavior resulting in death.

The point bring this thread has brought up the name of a woman who killed herself because of nothing to do with what the OP was ranting about. She was in an abusive relationship and was likely tormented from that and goodness knows what else, but there is mental health support if you seek it. I would prefer this not to happen, but it does and happens anywhere.

[Fatboxingfan]

the woman killed herself precisely for what I was quote-unquote ranting about. South Korea is a very sick emotionally sick society that needs to rely heavily upon plastic surgery and fake out with personalities while in the words of the woman herself who just committed suicide you have to put on a fake show for the world while inside you are rotting in pieces. What is the result of such a fake existence? Suicide of course. Name another oecd country with a higher suicide rate in South Korea.

I guess you call that being a liar. you blindly defend South Korea when you know it is a plastic country with plastic people highly materialistic and yes indeed people push their children 16 hours a day in schools why so they can be a baker? You know damn well they're pushing their kids 16 hours a day so they can go to the top three universities in Seoul to be white collar executives. Even the poorest families in the lowest income neighborhoods send their children to hagwons until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. at night. That's 16 hours a day and they're not sending them to English hag ones and math had ones and science hagwons in order for them to be Baker's or hair stylists and you know it. Quit blindly defending South Korea.

[Gandalf]

the woman killed herself precisely for what I was quote-unquote ranting about. South Korea is a very sick emotionally sick society that needs to rely heavily upon plastic surgery and fake out with personalities while in the words of the woman herself who just committed suicide you have to put on a fake show for the world while inside you are rotting in pieces. What is the result of such a fake existence? Suicide of course. Name another oecd country with a higher suicide rate in South Korea.

I guess you call that being a liar. you blindly defend South Korea when you know it is a plastic country with plastic people highly materialistic and yes indeed people push their children 16 hours a day in schools why so they can be a baker? You know damn well they're pushing their kids 16 hours a day so they can go to the top three universities in Seoul to be white collar executives. Even the poorest families in the lowest income neighborhoods send their children to hagwons until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. at night. That's 16 hours a day and they're not sending them to English hag ones and math had ones and science hagwons in order for them to be Baker's or hair stylists and you know it. Quit blindly defending South Korea.

Who exactly is rotting inside in pieces? Who is living a fake life? This is an individual who killed herself for reasons not entirely known, but they are her own reasons and that is what has happened. Were you a fan of hers?

It has no connection to people somehow frowning on bakers and hairstylists or worrying about pensions or this utter BS you have picked up as a Frenchman who needs Grammarly to communicate who has miraculously spoken to hundreds of parents during a period of ahem 3 weeks during your trip away from the slums of Baltimore. See any slums out here BTW? Where is this brilliant nation you appear to be seeking? It isn't America, it isn't South Korea, so wise Frenchie, what are your glorious picks?

I know for a fact that many parents are not doing what you say, but some do indeed push their kids. I have given you an example of an actual hairdresser, an actual baker, and I can give you many examples of people who have gone onto good Universities without needing Academies or any of that. Some people really are naturally smart, disciplined and scholarships abound to support them.

Tidy your room there in America with 70,000 opioid deaths alone in 2017. That puts it into perspective and does not include actual suicides, murders, and the old fashioned chronic alcoholism. The rates are not so different.