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That is the whole point of this thread that austerity has resulted in the government not supporting people who struggle.

NHS has been short staffed and underfunded, school classes are too big, lack of investment in teachers, police officer, transport, prisons and welfare benefits have been dramatically cut. The people who want to get out of their situation have a very difficult time.
I have no qualms with welfare being cut, but not for the disabled. I don't agree with that.

According to data I have looked at the NHS is not underfunded, it is just overused. You are talking about a population possibly 10 million bigger in a couple of decades and a population that has got pretty chunky bringing with it its own problems. It is creaking at the seams because of Labour and Tory and it is because nobody wants to control the borders. Ask Fenster about the emergency room. I was reading that massive numbers of students are now foreign as the migrants have children too. What do you expect exactly? Shut the borders and you can regain control, but until then it is a lost cause.

Yes, it is very difficult to get out of a situation where some groups have 70% of kids with no father figure. It shouldn't happen. In moderation it is fine, but at those numbers and taught in school that it is normal. Well, that is no enabler of prosperity.
The NHS is a victim of its own success and has kept people healthy and living longer. Therefore it will have more people using it. The biggest addition is social care particularly for the elderly which requires adequate funding.

It is less about open borders, obesity and single parents which is your ‘go to’ response on every one of these types of threads. People can prosper in spite of these circumstances but it is not easy and takes time.
If it is so successful then why are so many people using it and looking how they do? It looks to be failing IMO.

Yes, people can prosper and again that is my entire point too. But it is far more difficult when you are disadvantaged. My issue with single parenthood and open borders is that it makes it harder on those who are not exceptional. There are millions of people in any society who do not have an IQ of even 90. For them to stand any chance I would be protectionist and also encourage good behaviour rather than poor behavior. Like the video I posted argued, those without an education are far more likely to become single parents. They tend not to be as smart or able as the educated parents and are statistically more likely passing on bad habits.

If you really want to help then you have to be honest to people about how harmful it is rather than sugar coating all the time and many do it with the saint single Mum line which is often utterly phony. They chose poorly, did not plan or consider the child, raised scantily and it is taboo to call it out. I defend Johnson with his own comments which were true, but considered taboo in a warped culture. Many would agree with him though.