2019 UK General Election

[Fatboxingfan]

@Primo Carnera are you, two, being influencement by those gutter poster? Don't get influence he never told you about that on December 12th - one of 650 constituencies will be chosen by 46 million voters. Sacre Bleu, 59% of 20- to 24-year-olds voted 2 years ago which is absolute garbage, compared with 77% of 60- to 69-year-olds.

I go for Plaid Cymru.

I am going to pay a £500 deposit, which will be lost if I do not get at least 5% of the votes in my constituency, and as much as that certain person I am referencing thinks I cannot do it I assure you I must meet (AND I DO INDEED MEET) certain conditions, as I don't fall into the categories of prisoners, civil servants, judges and members of the police and armed forces --- who cannot stand, another thing unbeknownst to him.

Between 07:00 and 22:00 I will be receiving my votes. I say with pride and great happiness that I am one of the 91 Davids standing for election.

Let him eat cake.

[Gandalf]

Labour have a lunatic manifesto too. I have read through it and think it has some deranged stuff in there that will cost a lot just as the world teeters on a new financial crisis. Do you not observe the Fed with new QE and governments begging central banks to keep interest rates lower? Labour cannot afford it.

It will splatter horribly and then you really will see some cuts. I don't want to see it. Be cautious, be moderate and just listen to the 70% when they want less immigration and a Labour Party to represent them rather than consider them racist and out of touch.

Labour smeared itself with this darn manifesto. It is them in their own bubble. They have not listened and have lost their core vote. They might have London but when the North is voting Tory and Scotland abandoned you completely you know the gig is up. Those Northerners are NOT Tories! That is the scary thing about it all. They just want to be represented and are lashing out.

[Fatboxingfan]

the way I see that manifesto the labour party has had the audacity to put out there as if the people are so stupid in great Britain, a manifesto that relies on taxes that are HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely to raise the sums the demented party has said they will, and for whacky spending plans that are unlikely to be accomplished within 5 years.

I don't think the Nutjob Labour's would be able to deliver investment spending on the
delusional scale they promising. As a Frenchman I don't think the public sector of England has the capacity to crank up that much in such a short time.

I know about the UK, and I can hang with the peeps who wanna bring on economic arguments.

[Primo Carnera]

@Primo Carnera are you, two, being influencement by those gutter poster? Don't get influence he never told you about that on December 12th - one of 650 constituencies will be chosen by 46 million voters. Sacre Bleu, 59% of 20- to 24-year-olds voted 2 years ago which is absolute garbage, compared with 77% of 60- to 69-year-olds.

I go for Plaid Cymru.

I am going to pay a £500 deposit, which will be lost if I do not get at least 5% of the votes in my constituency, and as much as that certain person I am referencing thinks I cannot do it I assure you I must meet (AND I DO INDEED MEET) certain conditions, as I don't fall into the categories of prisoners, civil servants, judges and members of the police and armed forces --- who cannot stand, another thing unbeknownst to him.

Between 07:00 and 22:00 I will be receiving my votes. I say with pride and great happiness that I am one of the 91 Davids standing for election.

Let him eat cake.

Yep.

[Beanz]

Strap yourselves in folks, one of the political stories of the century is brewing...
1. A concerned mother shares a photo of her 4-year-old boy who was forced to wait hours on a hospital floor with suspected pneumonia.
2. The photo circulates online so a journalist challenges Boris Johnson about it during an interview by showing him the picture of the boy on his phone.
3. Johnson repeatedly refuses to even look at the boy, let alone acknowledge responsibility for the situation, and eventually steals the journalists phone and puts it in his pocket.
4. There is uproar about Johnson's lack of compassion so Health Minister, Matt Hancock, is dispatched to the hospital to deal with the situation.
5. Matt Hancock briefs journalists that, while at the hospital, one of his advisors was "punched" by a Labour activist.
6. Much of the media unquestioningly report the "punch" by the "Labour activist" as fact without checking the validity of the allegation. Widespread rage about "violent Labour activists" spreads like wildfire online.
7. Video footage then emerges online showing that the story had been entirely fabricated and was 100% false.
8. The media sheepishly backtrack on what they have posted out to the world.
9. A Facebook post then appears claiming to be from a "good friend" of a nurse working in Leeds hospital. The post says that the photograph of the 4-year-old was faked by a "Labour activist". The post is shared more than 30,000 times.
10. The claim is unquestioning reported as fact by much of the media without checking its validity.
11. Suspicions of the validity of the claim are then raised as it is discovered there are literally thousands and thousands of Facebook and Twitter accounts posting exactly the same claim, word for word.
12. It becomes clear that bots are being used to spread disinformation. The hospital also confirms the accuracy of the photo and that it had already apologised to the mother.
13. The media sheepishly backtrack on what they have posted out to the world.
14. The account where the post originated then comes into question. It belongs to a (real) woman named Sheree Jenner-Hepburn who claims her account has "hacked".
15. Further investigation shows that Sheree Jenner-Hepburn was not the innocent victim of a hack, but that the post was made from her account intentionally, as she responded to her friend's comments on the post.
16. It's then discovered that Sheree Jenner-Hepburn's son has a Facebook friend with a very prominent role within this story which may cast light on the motives behind the fake post.
17. It's… Matt Hancock's account!!!
In summary: it appears that the actual Health Minister of the British Government has not only fabricated a "punch" to deflect the heat from his boss, but, after being found out the first time, he *may* have used his friend's Facebook account to circulate another entirely fabricated story to try and smear his political opponents.
Even the writers of The Thick Of It would find this story too incredible to script!

[Beanz]

[Fatboxingfan]

Beanz, I did read about that's thing, but I became confused it, so, somebody first lied to make it looked like a boy was laying among coats? But then is was discovery that is was a fake pic? What ecaxtly was happen? Those steps you published above is too many and too much steps to followz so, did those Tory do that things? Or what? Just break it down B, I can't able to follow the steps.

[Beanz]

Beanz, I did read about that's thing, but I became confused it, so, somebody first lied to make it looked like a boy was laying among coats? But then is was discovery that is was a fake pic? What ecaxtly was happen? Those steps you published above is too many and too much steps to followz so, did those Tory do that things? Or what? Just break it down B, I can't able to follow the steps.

Nobody lied except those who claimed others had faked the photo The hospital confirmed it was true as have hundreds around the country who have the same experience. I waited for hours in a corridor with my Mrs and her dad did, despite having a suspected heart attack had similar problems.

The Tory Prime minister refused to look at the picture and took the television reporters phone off him.

The idea it was a fake picture was spread by a friend of the tory health minister and possibly the minister himself

The BBC's chief political reporter Laura Kuenessberg reported that the Health minister was punched. There is again video showing his aide walking past someone who stops his bycyle and points as the aide walks into his outstretched arm. Another tory lie.

88% of Tory Social media ads have been lies. 0% of Labour ads were.
The tories set up many fake Web sites pretending to be Labor. Labor set up none.
Next level big brother shit.

The BBC then try to bury the story as they are run by Tories installed by Cameron.

[Fatboxingfan]

You see Beanz, if we are to live in a society that says freedom of the press then we run into these situations where people are free to make up stories as you have mentioned. It is a catch-22 because then if we try to do something about those people they will say we are censoring them. They will say we are taking away their freedom of speech or freedom of the press and that we are like a stalinist or a national socialist government

I don't know what the solution is. My first reaction is to arrest someone who spreads evil lies. But we can't can we? We will never live that down if we do such a thing. The whole world will end point fingers and say we have brazenly taken a dictator's step or a tyrant's step. It is a very difficult topic and the more I think about it the less I know what to do. The moment we sent to somebody then surely we will begin to censor others. at the same time you can't have people spreading evil lies which do damage to the people

this world perhaps is no different than it ever was but to me it is becoming so complicated and so polarized and I can see both sides very clearly and I think we are all just paralyzed now with confusion and hesitation and fear of making a mistake