Boris Johnson as Prime Minister thread

[Dark Lord Al]

For the record look at the labour voters protesting in london , sums it all up really, scruffy students and dead legs lol.
Do they realise how democracy works ? we all voted and they lost.

Hundreds protest was the headline, millions voted but these creatures seem to think that its ok to waste police time by stamping their little feet.

Pathetic.




It isn't so puzzling as to why these knuckle draggers lost , is it ?

Water cannon anyone ?

[Gandalf]

It is a genuine thread as I have a hard time seeing the result of Boris being a dictatorship. If anything, with a weak Brexit and somewhat Blairite policies, I see a fairly moderate politician who likes to make politically incorrect jokes. It is a bit like what was except with a pledge to leave the EU. We will see.

[Beanz]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

[Batman]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

[Dark Lord Al]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

You my friend nailed it with this post.

[Beanz]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

I am sure their are millions of people who voted with the very best of intentions. It is also true though that they voted on the basis of a massive pack of outright lies in many cases, and this seems to be being very conveniently buried and forgotten.

There are two separate issues though.

I can understand why many would have voted for Brexit. I have always said you can make a very strong case, even as someone on the left (far left even) for Brexit. One of my brothers voted for Brexit , my step-son voted for Brexit , Master voted for Brexit, but weirdly because I voted, after much soul searching, 'Remain' I have had to put up with years here of being called unpatriotic and undemocratic. Mainly, ironically, by Americans who struggle to know the difference between the UK , England , Scotland and Wales.

In the referendum I voted with England and the UK'S best interest at heart and what would be best for my family and the generations to come. I did the same thing in the General Election, but with the crucial difference that the most important thing was removing a party that is full of bad actors and has already begun selling the United Kingdom off. Not just our assets, like Nuclear to the Chinese and French the NHS and healthcare to corporations like Virgin and ATOS (how unpatriotic is that?), but much of our cultural and traditional heritage as well as showing scant disregard for the environment and one of the things that defines us as a nation, small businesses.


The Tories have made it clear everything is for sale. To be complicit in voting for that is utterly unpatriotic.


They have shown disrespect for all the things supposed Patriots are supposed to venerate - The Sovereignty of Parliament and the The Rule of Law.

The shrinking of the state through Austerity is deeply, deeply unpatriotic. I do not say these things lightly. Patriotism (pride in country) is massively compromised when you shrink and sell of the public services that make it great. It betrays the country and it's people.

Patriotism is not hating the EU. That is an American religion. Fuck that. Patriotism for us Brits is about celebrating and being proud of what we have created together as a nation. Galleries, Parks, Schools, Hospitals, etc not selling them off and closing them en masse.


If people really could not vote for labour there were plenty of alternatives, including 'None of the above',but many former Labour supporters did vote Tory, and so they willingly acted against the best interest of the UK. Just because it was 'To Get Brexit Done' does not instantly absolve them of responsibility and make them patriots.

I am sure many were and continue to be ignorant but to claim because they wave a foreign made flag like the American equivalent, that they are patriotic is just not true.

[walrus]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

I am sure their are millions of people who voted with the very best of intentions. It is also true though that they voted on the basis of a massive pack of outright lies in many cases, and this seems to be being very conveniently buried and forgotten.

There are two separate issues though.

I can understand why many would have voted for Brexit. I have always said you can make a very strong case, even as someone on the left (far left even) for Brexit. One of my brothers voted for Brexit , my step-son voted for Brexit , Master voted for Brexit, but weirdly because I voted, after much soul searching, 'Remain' I have had to put up with years here of being called unpatriotic and undemocratic. Mainly, ironically, by Americans who struggle to know the difference between the UK , England , Scotland and Wales.

In the referendum I voted with England and the UK'S best interest at heart and what would be best for my family and the generations to come. I did the same thing in the General Election, but with the crucial difference that the most important thing was removing a party that is full of bad actors and has already begun selling the United Kingdom off. Not just our assets, like Nuclear to the Chinese and French the NHS and healthcare to corporations like Virgin and ATOS (how unpatriotic is that?), but much of our cultural and traditional heritage as well as showing scant disregard for the environment and one of the things that defines us as a nation, small businesses.


The Tories have made it clear everything is for sale. To be complicit in voting for that is utterly unpatriotic.


They have shown disrespect for all the things supposed Patriots are supposed to venerate - The Sovereignty of Parliament and the The Rule of Law.

The shrinking of the state through Austerity is deeply, deeply unpatriotic. I do not say these things lightly. Patriotism (pride in country) is massively compromised when you shrink and sell of the public services that make it great. It betrays the country and it's people.

Patriotism is not hating the EU. That is an American religion. Fuck that. Patriotism for us Brits is about celebrating and being proud of what we have created together as a nation. Galleries, Parks, Schools, Hospitals, etc not selling them off and closing them en masse.


If people really could not vote for labour there were plenty of alternatives, including 'None of the above',but many former Labour supporters did vote Tory, and so they willingly acted against the best interest of the UK. Just because it was 'To Get Brexit Done' does not instantly absolve them of responsibility and make them patriots.

I am sure many were and continue to be ignorant but to claim because they wave a foreign made flag like the American equivalent, that they are patriotic is just not true.

Nah don’t try to clean it up beanz you are right, anyone who voted differently from you is unpatriotic.

[Beanz]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

I am sure their are millions of people who voted with the very best of intentions. It is also true though that they voted on the basis of a massive pack of outright lies in many cases, and this seems to be being very conveniently buried and forgotten.

There are two separate issues though.

I can understand why many would have voted for Brexit. I have always said you can make a very strong case, even as someone on the left (far left even) for Brexit. One of my brothers voted for Brexit , my step-son voted for Brexit , Master voted for Brexit, but weirdly because I voted, after much soul searching, 'Remain' I have had to put up with years here of being called unpatriotic and undemocratic. Mainly, ironically, by Americans who struggle to know the difference between the UK , England , Scotland and Wales.

In the referendum I voted with England and the UK'S best interest at heart and what would be best for my family and the generations to come. I did the same thing in the General Election, but with the crucial difference that the most important thing was removing a party that is full of bad actors and has already begun selling the United Kingdom off. Not just our assets, like Nuclear to the Chinese and French the NHS and healthcare to corporations like Virgin and ATOS (how unpatriotic is that?), but much of our cultural and traditional heritage as well as showing scant disregard for the environment and one of the things that defines us as a nation, small businesses.


The Tories have made it clear everything is for sale. To be complicit in voting for that is utterly unpatriotic.


They have shown disrespect for all the things supposed Patriots are supposed to venerate - The Sovereignty of Parliament and the The Rule of Law.

The shrinking of the state through Austerity is deeply, deeply unpatriotic. I do not say these things lightly. Patriotism (pride in country) is massively compromised when you shrink and sell of the public services that make it great. It betrays the country and it's people.

Patriotism is not hating the EU. That is an American religion. Fuck that. Patriotism for us Brits is about celebrating and being proud of what we have created together as a nation. Galleries, Parks, Schools, Hospitals, etc not selling them off and closing them en masse.


If people really could not vote for labour there were plenty of alternatives, including 'None of the above',but many former Labour supporters did vote Tory, and so they willingly acted against the best interest of the UK. Just because it was 'To Get Brexit Done' does not instantly absolve them of responsibility and make them patriots.

I am sure many were and continue to be ignorant but to claim because they wave a foreign made flag like the American equivalent, that they are patriotic is just not true.

Nah don’t try to clean it up beanz you are right, anyone who voted differently from you is unpatriotic.

Who asked you anything? Got your Taiwanese made MAGA cap and plastic flag ready for when Trump starts bidding for our nations soul yet? Prick

[TitoFan]

C'mon guys...... stop sniping at each other.

After all...........................


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...ionship-083732

"Boris and Donald: A very special relationship"



It's the continuation of a bea-u-ti-fool friendship.

It's win-win, guys. Trump can now point to Boris and say See?? I'm not the only world leader that acts like a buffoon. We're the "new normal."

[Fatboxingfan]

from my view across the channel with my very limited knowledge a British politics I feel that Labour can triumph again, but only if it skips the wild arrogance of the Thatcher years.
Young people/socialists of today should NOT wait until 2030 to win a general election. Compromising with voters is their only hope. This time please (holy fuck!) don’t say the RMT can run the trains, don’t bother trying to nationalize 10 per cent of every goddamn motherfucking thing that moves FFS. They fucked up royally bcuz IMHO Labour was either going to lose the "Leave" North or the "remain" South. Imbecile Corbyn tried to win both and lost both. WTF

And if you want to come back from this thumping defeat then dammit support your traditional institutions: the monarchy and the armed forces.

Get the fuck on with winning before you totally forget how.

[Fatboxingfan]

John McDonnell now taking all the blame from the Shadows.

Beanz, if that's the case what you say that is really bad news and not looking so good especially if they try to change the laws like you said to make it impossible to get them out of there. God bless those marginalized people and let's hope for the best. I'm only trying to figure out what they can do next time but Master says that they don't need my help. I don't know why he has to make that kind of personal snipe at me I'm seriously analyzing what went wrong to the best of my ability. I guess he doesn't want me to analyze anything.

[Fatboxingfan]

Go ahead and respond. I will not be replying.

[Fatboxingfan]

Following the “disastrous” result, Alan Johnson MP launched into a scathing critique of Mr Corbyn’s leadership - saying the he should resign “immediately”.

Writing in the Mail on Sunday, Mr Johnson said: “Labour tried to fool the public into thinking that money was no object.

“But the main problem at this election wasn’t the manifesto; the main problem was Corbyn. A weak, self-regarding, pious man incapable of leadership.”

Mr Johnson then went on to claim Mr Corbyn failed to appeal to working class communities that had consistently put trust in Labour.

[Gandalf]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

I am sure their are millions of people who voted with the very best of intentions. It is also true though that they voted on the basis of a massive pack of outright lies in many cases, and this seems to be being very conveniently buried and forgotten.

There are two separate issues though.

I can understand why many would have voted for Brexit. I have always said you can make a very strong case, even as someone on the left (far left even) for Brexit. One of my brothers voted for Brexit , my step-son voted for Brexit , Master voted for Brexit, but weirdly because I voted, after much soul searching, 'Remain' I have had to put up with years here of being called unpatriotic and undemocratic. Mainly, ironically, by Americans who struggle to know the difference between the UK , England , Scotland and Wales.

In the referendum I voted with England and the UK'S best interest at heart and what would be best for my family and the generations to come. I did the same thing in the General Election, but with the crucial difference that the most important thing was removing a party that is full of bad actors and has already begun selling the United Kingdom off. Not just our assets, like Nuclear to the Chinese and French the NHS and healthcare to corporations like Virgin and ATOS (how unpatriotic is that?), but much of our cultural and traditional heritage as well as showing scant disregard for the environment and one of the things that defines us as a nation, small businesses.


The Tories have made it clear everything is for sale. To be complicit in voting for that is utterly unpatriotic.


They have shown disrespect for all the things supposed Patriots are supposed to venerate - The Sovereignty of Parliament and the The Rule of Law.

The shrinking of the state through Austerity is deeply, deeply unpatriotic. I do not say these things lightly. Patriotism (pride in country) is massively compromised when you shrink and sell of the public services that make it great. It betrays the country and it's people.

Patriotism is not hating the EU. That is an American religion. Fuck that. Patriotism for us Brits is about celebrating and being proud of what we have created together as a nation. Galleries, Parks, Schools, Hospitals, etc not selling them off and closing them en masse.


If people really could not vote for labour there were plenty of alternatives, including 'None of the above',but many former Labour supporters did vote Tory, and so they willingly acted against the best interest of the UK. Just because it was 'To Get Brexit Done' does not instantly absolve them of responsibility and make them patriots.

I am sure many were and continue to be ignorant but to claim because they wave a foreign made flag like the American equivalent, that they are patriotic is just not true.

So everyone is basically wrong. Again.

[Beanz]

The most far right Party in the nation’s modern history just seized power through a campaign of lies and misinformation. To do this it evaded scrutiny, spent millions of foreign money on deception, and suppressed information. If you voted for that don't you dare ever claim to be a patriot. You are the absolute opposite.

Don't blame the people that voted, blame the party that made itself unvotable.

The people who are stuck on the far left really don't understand democracy do they

Leave wins - let's protest
Labour loses - let's protest

If the Brexiteers lost and then went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

If labour won all of their usual strongholds and people went out protesting then they would be labelled as mindless racist thugs.

All the gnashing of teeth isn't going to change anything, I don't like or trust Bozza but he has said that he is going to do his best for the people that loaned him their vote and (unfortunately I was one of those people) and now I've gotta sit tight and wait and see if he is a man of his word (Which I very much doubt)

Beans I think that to say that anyone who voted against Labour is unpatriotic is a bit narrow minded, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want for whatever reasons, you might not agree with their reasons but to chuck insults around is a little childish.

I am sure their are millions of people who voted with the very best of intentions. It is also true though that they voted on the basis of a massive pack of outright lies in many cases, and this seems to be being very conveniently buried and forgotten.

There are two separate issues though.

I can understand why many would have voted for Brexit. I have always said you can make a very strong case, even as someone on the left (far left even) for Brexit. One of my brothers voted for Brexit , my step-son voted for Brexit , Master voted for Brexit, but weirdly because I voted, after much soul searching, 'Remain' I have had to put up with years here of being called unpatriotic and undemocratic. Mainly, ironically, by Americans who struggle to know the difference between the UK , England , Scotland and Wales.

In the referendum I voted with England and the UK'S best interest at heart and what would be best for my family and the generations to come. I did the same thing in the General Election, but with the crucial difference that the most important thing was removing a party that is full of bad actors and has already begun selling the United Kingdom off. Not just our assets, like Nuclear to the Chinese and French the NHS and healthcare to corporations like Virgin and ATOS (how unpatriotic is that?), but much of our cultural and traditional heritage as well as showing scant disregard for the environment and one of the things that defines us as a nation, small businesses.


The Tories have made it clear everything is for sale. To be complicit in voting for that is utterly unpatriotic.


They have shown disrespect for all the things supposed Patriots are supposed to venerate - The Sovereignty of Parliament and the The Rule of Law.

The shrinking of the state through Austerity is deeply, deeply unpatriotic. I do not say these things lightly. Patriotism (pride in country) is massively compromised when you shrink and sell of the public services that make it great. It betrays the country and it's people.

Patriotism is not hating the EU. That is an American religion. Fuck that. Patriotism for us Brits is about celebrating and being proud of what we have created together as a nation. Galleries, Parks, Schools, Hospitals, etc not selling them off and closing them en masse.


If people really could not vote for labour there were plenty of alternatives, including 'None of the above',but many former Labour supporters did vote Tory, and so they willingly acted against the best interest of the UK. Just because it was 'To Get Brexit Done' does not instantly absolve them of responsibility and make them patriots.

I am sure many were and continue to be ignorant but to claim because they wave a foreign made flag like the American equivalent, that they are patriotic is just not true.

So everyone is basically wrong. Again.

That doesn't make sense.

Democracy works by me voting for what i believe, not what you believe. Millions of people voted like I did or chose to vote for someone other than Johnson's rabble. We may have lost the vote but it does not make us wrong. In fact the onus is now on Johnson to sort it out. For three years a Conservative Government could not sort it out. Over to him, the overstuffed custard scarecrow, to show us all these fantasy imaginary benefits we are supposed to get by sticking two fingers up to our closest and oldest trading partners.

Ha! It so mental you could not make it up.