Does this make Margarito a coward?

[Purist]

Not going to search, I go from memory.

Spinks tried to make a fight with Tony both before he beat Mayorga, after he beat Mayorga and after he beat Judah the first time. Can you explain to me why?

[Purist]

why Margarito ducked those fights.

[OumaFan]

I follow boxing very closely and don't remember anything like that

Makes no sense, why would a guy who wants to fight PBF duck Spinks A link would help

[Purist]

If I find one I will provide it to you. and lets not forget after he beat Mayorga some people felt that if Mayweather went to 147 that Spinks could beat him. All before the Judah fight.

[El Gamo]

CC's Gyrokia,Oumafan and of course Mick. This is honestly one of the weakest argued threads I have ever seen in my life with random accusations like "Margarito ducks Spinks etc" with absolutely no basis on fact whatsoever. Palease! What is Spinks going to do to Tony? Also,as soon as Floyd movd to 147,Margarito stated he wanted to fight him. Anyway, Margarito has set aside a date with the winner of Floyd and Zab so let's see what happens.....
Also, it's really weak to say he has done nothing to deserve a shot at the best,people said that about guys like Winky,JMM etc too. Look at Tony's record.Unbeaten at WW for 9 years? Beaten young hungry opponents and people say he has done nothing,well his record looks better than Zab's. It looks better than Floyd's in the last 3 years.Cintron,Lujan,Lewis,Gomez,granted they are not world class but you have an unbeaten power puncher with 1 punch ko power,a rugged and tough Lujan,a former champ in Lewis who wsa expected to outbox Tony,and a guy with a shotgun for a right hand and unbeatne in 6 years or something. They are the only guys with the cohoonas to fight Tony. All you hear from Floyd is what has this guy done etc etc blah blah blah but that is a weak and pathetic argument. Margarito actually desrves his shot unlike Zab and $6 mill is being offered to PBF,if Margarito is so easy to beat,why not pick up the easy pay day like he did against a broken man in Sharmba and guys like Brusselles?? Also, Floyd has been contradictory in his opinion of Margarito, pre Gomez saying that he was easy to beat etc, after Gomez, saying he is actually quite good or something,someone had a link to iy.
Why the hell are people giving Mayweather a "this is business and it's not going to make money."
Boxing is business, aka Prize Fighting. Money rules the world. We all know this.

But the reason why fighting is the best sport on earth, is because honor is involved. It's one of the few sports where they "train to win" not "practice to play good." To be a champion is an honor. And in order to attain that honor, you must fight on all comers that deserve their opportunity.

One of the best points I have ever heard.Period.

[Purist]

You discredit Spinks but if Spinks is all bad.. then why did Margarito not fight him to unify then You still aint said why.

[El Gamo]

Come on Starr,I thought someone as knowledgeable as you would no better than to throw around random, unapproved accusations with no evidence whatsoever.I mean really....

[mokele]

The title of the thread is so ridiculous it's funny. Margarito has been a busy fighter throughout his career, fighting pretty much whoever was available and expected to enhance his ranking if he beat him. Hercules Kyvelos was supposed to be a serious test for Margarito, and only after Kyvelos was completely outclassed and overpowered did people demote his status somewhat. One of the calling cards of a great fighter is that people think an awful lot less of the fighters he beats after he destroys them.

[Purist]

Come on Starr,I thought someone as knowledgeable as you would no better than to throw around random, unapproved accusations with no evidence whatsoever.I mean really....

I remember! And I resent that you even suggest I'd say something without knowing it.

You should learn, really not to challenge me.

Time to teach you a lesson... Old Purist style

Once Cory Spinks beat Pichirillo he tried to make a fight with Margarito. margarito declined and this was AFTER the Andrew Lewis fight. Cory tried to make that fight and Margarito avoided it.

Why do you think Margarito was inactive for 8 months and Spinks being inactive for 9

And I'll also point out that after he beat Mayorga Cory Spinks called out Margarito.

Margarito a month later fights Hercules Kyvelos And Cory Spinks tries again to make a fight with Antonio Margarito for his April defense. And Margarito AGAIN declines.. causing himself to be without an opponent and becomes inactive.

Cory goes through with the April defense and faces Zab Judah and defends his title although almost losing it in the 12th round.

AFTER his April defense Cory Spinks again calls to fight Margarito!

Spinks has a defense on September, he calls out Margarito who he can get.

Margarito AGAIN declines and opts to use the date to fight Daniel Santos in a move up to weight.

So Margarito moves up to fight Daniel Santos 8 MONTHS. removed from the Hercules and 2 ATTEMPTS from Cory Spinks to make the fight.

Margarito fights Santos and is beaten.

While Cory goes with the date 7 days before Margarito's Santos fight and defeats Miguel Angel Gonzales.

Now after this fight both Margarito and Cory Spinks have an open date February.

Cory Spinks TRIES A THIRD TIME to make a fight with Antonio Margarito for a February fight.

Margarito AGAIN DECLINES!!!

So Spinks decides to fight Judah rematch in February and is beaten.

Margarito fights 13 days after Spinks is beaten and defeats Lujan.

So don't you DARE try to say what I say is random.

I'm expecting an apology now

[Purist]

Where you at Game? I didn't want to do that to you but seriously, you were pushing it. Where's my apology?


edit: I got tired of waiting. I'm going to bed, I hope to see your apology in the morning. Good night

[JonesJrMayweather]

you know what all this speculation "he ducked him, no he didn't he ducked him" is nonsense...point is margarito hasn't beaten anybody except cintron..and I'll say again he's already got FOUR LOSSES that's why he has to take back seat.....and this crap about "why would margarito duck spinks when he's willing to PBF?" DUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!! PBF is worth more money even in a loss than he'd get against spinks.....but he wasn't willing to fight spinks because the risk of him getting exposed was too high...alright that was speculation but whatever he still hasn't done anything to attempt to cash in on PBF....

[gyrokai]

Where you at Game? I didn't want to do that to you but seriously, you were pushing it. Where's my apology?

edit: I got tired of waiting. I'm going to bed, I hope to see your apology in the morning. Good night

He fell asleep. So I've got the night shift tonight.

Starr,

There is an easy explaination for your question. It even has to do with the title of the Floyd and Zab fight, "Sworn Enemies."

Zab and Floyd are old buds. BUT their promoters are the real Sworn Enemies.

Don King vs Bob Arum

That's why Spinks Margarito never happened.

Just a verbal, "I want Margarito!" Spinks quote isn't good enough.
Promoters have to talk, fax, send a quote, communicate, and deal with each other in order to make an offer.

King or Arum won't deal with each other, unless they feel they can make the big ones. $$$$ And lets face it, Spinks is gone, but is there any large cry for his return? Spinks Margarito is a great fight to the purist fight fan, but to their promoters, they want a fight that is guaranteed to make the deal worth the pain of dealing with each other.

The thing with Mayweather, is that Arum promotes both Floyd and Antonio. Where Arum doesn't have to deal with another big headed promoter asking for a certain percentage also. So it's much easier to try to iron out a nice deal for everyone. Arum has wanted Mayweather Margarito for quite awhile, I've even seen Bob introduce them on stage during a promotion for another fight.

Except Mayweather would rather fight the Sharmba, N'dou, Brussels of the world. And take on the Dance Dance Zabolution Boy.

[El Gamo]

Where you at Game? I didn't want to do that to you but seriously, you were pushing it. Where's my apology?

edit: I got tired of waiting. I'm going to bed, I hope to see your apology in the morning. Good night

He fell asleep. So I've got the night shift tonight.

Starr,

There is an easy explaination for your question. It even has to do with the title of the Floyd and Zab fight, "Sworn Enemies."

Zab and Floyd are old buds. BUT their promoters are the real Sworn Enemies.

Don King vs Bob Arum

That's why Spinks Margarito never happened.

Just a verbal, "I want Margarito!" Spinks quote isn't good enough.
Promoters have to talk, fax, send a quote, communicate, and deal with each other in order to make an offer.

King or Arum won't deal with each other, unless they feel they can make the big ones. $$$$ And lets face it, Spinks is gone, but is there any large cry for his return? Spinks Margarito is a great fight to the purist fight fan, but to their promoters, they want a fight that is guaranteed to make the deal worth the pain of dealing with each other.

The thing with Mayweather, is that Arum promotes both Floyd and Antonio. Where Arum doesn't have to deal with another big headed promoter asking for a certain percentage also. So it's much easier to try to iron out a nice deal for everyone. Arum has wanted Mayweather Margarito for quite awhile, I've even seen Bob introduce them on stage during a promotion for another fight.

Except Mayweather would rather fight the Sharmba, N'dou, Brussels of the world. And take on the Dance Dance Zabolution Boy.

I think my man Gyrokai explained way better than I ever could! Starr, you said Margarito ducked Spinks but this guy is from the rough districts of Tijuana, like Arce and Morales and those boys don't duck anyone! Can you honestly look at me and tell me margarito ducked COREY SPINKS No apology

[ElTerribleMorales]

you are a complete moron.....

I'm a complete moron because the statement was true? Or what? because he has been at WW for ten years, and still didn't beat or fight anybody of note except cintron, so would you care to elaborate on your comment? he could've fought oba carr too....

because it's complete bullshit, he's fought Andrew "six heads" Lewis and was blown out in two, moved up to 154 where he was completely screwed over in Bayamon when he fought Santos, Cintron, and Gomez, he won all in an impressive fashion (except the robbery that was his fight with Santos), Mayweather's run at 140 is a huge joke, he had 3 fights, and only one title fight, he never had the balls to defend the title, instead he fights the bum that is Sharmba Mitchell, i think if you wanna say anyone is scared it's PBF, he had plenty of fights at 140, Cotto, Hatton, Witter, Torres, Branco, Tzyu, Malagnaggi, and even Harris (if you wanna put an easy one in there), but no he chooses to fight Mitchell, and then the ever so shitty Zab "super fake" Judah.

[JonesJrMayweather]

you are a complete moron.....

I'm a complete moron because the statement was true? Or what? because he has been at WW for ten years, and still didn't beat or fight anybody of note except cintron, so would you care to elaborate on your comment? he could've fought oba carr too....

because it's complete bullshit, he's fought Andrew "six heads" Lewis and was blown out in two, moved up to 154 where he was completely screwed over in Bayamon when he fought Santos, Cintron, and Gomez, he won all in an impressive fashion (except the robbery that was his fight with Santos), Mayweather's run at 140 is a huge joke, he had 3 fights, and only one title fight, he never had the balls to defend the title, instead he fights the bum that is Sharmba Mitchell, i think if you wanna say anyone is scared it's PBF, he had plenty of fights at 140, Cotto, Hatton, Witter, Torres, Branco, Tzyu, Malagnaggi, and even Harris (if you wanna put an easy one in there), but no he chooses to fight Mitchell, and then the ever so shitty Zab "super fake" Judah.

First off if you give margarito credit for beating six heads after he got blown out by MAYORGA...certainly Mayweather gets credit for beating shamba...i mean are you seriously comparing six heads to mitchell because that'd make you look dumb...also at least ZAb had the real belts at WW not the corny WBO...who did margarito beat for that? because mayorga and forrest fought to unify them...RM won, then lost to spinks, who eventually got stopped by Judah....judah's one fight with KT alone, albeit a loss, makes his fight resume better than margarito's.... and why didn't he have them all I mean he's been at 147 his whole career...B-hop had all the middleweight belts when he decided to live in the division....

And if you're in a division for ten years and don't fight any of the primary fighters somethings wrong...at least PBF can say he didn't fight the guys at 140 because he moved out of the division...what's margarito's excuse?

AND HE'S GOT FOUR LOSSES!!!! FOUR one to a guy that's 14-9