End of year awards 2019

[TIC]

don't worry, puerto rico will have another decent fighter sooner or later, nowhere as great as canelo, but at least decent

[TitoFan]

Nah. We don't have the Hollywood-WBC-Mafia-GBP connections to manufacture bring along a star of that magnitude.

Nor do we have the athletic commissions in our back pocket that hand out slaps on the wrist for PED-cheating scum.

Nor do we have the shady judge connections to constantly steal fights from opponents.

The list goes on but why belabor the point? It's like..................

[TIC]

Nah. We don't have the Hollywood-WBC-Mafia-GBP connections to manufacture bring along a star of that magnitude.

Nor do we have the athletic commissions in our back pocket that hand out slaps on the wrist for PED-cheating scum.

Nor do we have the shady judge connections to constantly steal fights from opponents.

The list goes on but why belabor the point? It's like..................

nah, you just don't have guys skilled enough or with enough heart to be a star of that magnitude yet

canelo just fights the fights. if you have a problem with the commisions, judges then take it up with them. canelo is just in there throwing and taking punches against some of the top names of this generations. all great have bad calls on their records. i am disappointed with the failed drug tests, but he served his time, others weren't even punished, and has continued his career

[TitoFan]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

[TIC]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

that's why i said yet

remember canelo turned pro young so much of his early fights were development. he has fought a who's who in recent years. who would you be happy for him to fight next? say top three choices

[TitoFan]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

that's why i said yet

remember canelo turned pro young so much of his early fights were development. he has fought a who's who in recent years. who would you be happy for him to fight next? say top three choices

I'll give you one in each division.

Beterbiev.

If Canelo wasn't the division-skipping pussy he is.... he'd go for Beterbiev. None of this "lame zebra picking off" nonsense if you want fans to take you seriously. If you gonna play that game, stay the hell away from 175.

Callum Smith.

Who does Canelo target at 168? Not the guy boxing fans want him to fight. Not the decent punching, big boy Callum Smith. But rather powder-puff punching Billy Joe Saunders. Meanwhile, someone like Smith just gets deafening silence.

Jermall Charlo.

Why doesn't Charlo's name ever come up? And please spare me this "oh Charlo has other commitments" B.S. Charlo is a heavy hitter who could easily derail the Canelo golden goose express.


Answer me this question... WHEN has Canelo ever ventured outside the friendly confines of Vegas/ Southern California (heavily Mexican)/ Texas (heavily Mexican) for a fight?? I'll end the suspense. ONCE.

Once in his whole bleeping career. When he went to New York to challenge the "dangerous" Rocky Fielding. Another deer in headlights with a trinket just waiting to be picked up.


I've respected many bonafide Mexican boxing stars in their day. Finito Lopez, MAB, even JCC Sr. But how Canelo's skipping and hopping through weight divisions, avoiding the dangerous opponents, is admired by anyone..... is anybody's guess.

But hey..... you've got the WBC churning out make-believe belts for him nearly on a daily basis.

[TIC]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

Canelo and Chavez Jr were both manufactured, but Canelo just actually had talent.

Before now though, what other Mexican fighter has been so coddled?

was jacobs shot? did canelo ruin ggg after the first fight, canelo had to take a catchweight to fight floyd, was lara shot? what about trout? lots of coddling going on there, not

I’ve already had this discussion with you. If you want my thoughts, go check our other discussion about it.

it was a reply to yourself and titofan, sorry for trying to spark some interest and discussion on a forum. keep dancing for me

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

that's why i said yet

remember canelo turned pro young so much of his early fights were development. he has fought a who's who in recent years. who would you be happy for him to fight next? say top three choices

I'll give you one in each division.

Beterbiev.

If Canelo wasn't the division-skipping pussy he is.... he'd go for Beterbiev. None of this "lame zebra picking off" nonsense if you want fans to take you seriously. If you gonna play that game, stay the hell away from 175.

Callum Smith.

Who does Canelo target at 168? Not the guy boxing fans want him to fight. Not the decent punching, big boy Callum Smith. But rather powder-puff punching Billy Joe Saunders. Meanwhile, someone like Smith just gets deafening silence.

Jermall Charlo.

Why doesn't Charlo's name ever come up? And please spare me this "oh Charlo has other commitments" B.S. Charlo is a heavy hitter who could easily derail the Canelo golden goose express.


Answer me this question... WHEN has Canelo ever ventured outside the friendly confines of Vegas/ Southern California (heavily Mexican)/ Texas (heavily Mexican) for a fight?? I'll end the suspense. ONCE.

Once in his whole bleeping career. When he went to New York to challenge the "dangerous" Rocky Fielding. Another deer in headlights with a trinket just waiting to be picked up.


I've respected many bonafide Mexican boxing stars in their day. Finito Lopez, MAB, even JCC Sr. But how Canelo's skipping and hopping through weight divisions, avoiding the dangerous opponents, is admired by anyone..... is anybody's guess.

But hey..... you've got the WBC churning out make-believe belts for him nearly on a daily basis.

beterbiev, so are you holding all the top guys at 160 to the same standards? i would like to see the fight but can already see some fans criticising or making excuses if canelo won that beterbiev was too old, he is 35 now

callum got an early christmas gift against ryder, i would like to see the fight but don't really see it as much of a challenge, and again some fans will bitch, same as they would if he rightly chose ryder

jermall, has been offered a fight with andrade and had sergiy d as his number one, also almost got upset by matt korobov and hasn't really done anything at middle. i would like to see the fight but again i fear we would see the same excuses when canelo laid him out, korobov and trout already exposed him, what had jermall done at middleweight and so on

how often did floyd travel overseas? once a fighter gets into this type of position they rightly or wrongly gain some advantages, a fighter still needs to step through the ropes, risk his life and fight, every fighter wants an advantage, if given one do you really think they will refuse it? this is the real world

i never stated that fielding was dangerous and never named him as an opponent i thought was quality, canelo did travel though and fighters don't tend to fight top opponents back to back to back these days

no other middleweights are putting their hand up to face kov, even now

the belts are irrelevant

[powerpuncher]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

Canelo and Chavez Jr were both manufactured, but Canelo just actually had talent.

Before now though, what other Mexican fighter has been so coddled?

[TIC]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

Canelo and Chavez Jr were both manufactured, but Canelo just actually had talent.

Before now though, what other Mexican fighter has been so coddled?

was jacobs shot? did canelo ruin ggg after the first fight, canelo had to take a catchweight to fight floyd, was lara shot? what about trout? lots of coddling going on there, not

[powerpuncher]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

Canelo and Chavez Jr were both manufactured, but Canelo just actually had talent.

Before now though, what other Mexican fighter has been so coddled?

was jacobs shot? did canelo ruin ggg after the first fight, canelo had to take a catchweight to fight floyd, was lara shot? what about trout? lots of coddling going on there, not

I’ve already had this discussion with you. If you want my thoughts, go check our other discussion about it.

[TitoFan]

yeah, we're fresh out of stars right now.... these things are cyclical you know

i can assure you though that when we do get one he won't be coddled, protected, fed bums for 40 fights, kept away from dangerous opponents, and have legions of blind fans who DKSAB.

Canelo and Chavez Jr were both manufactured, but Canelo just actually had talent.

Before now though, what other Mexican fighter has been so coddled?

No one.

Well.... actually JCC Sr. did fight 40-some bums to kick off his career (a typical practice down yonder).

But after that he swept through a who's who list of fighters and actually EARNED his fame.

He did seem a bit obsessed with reaching 100 wins though..... and fought a few more tomato cans along the way. But it's hard to begrudge him that.