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    Default Re: Canelo’s short list

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    People like to rewrite history. Floyd wasn’t the cash cow and wasn’t given anything until after he beat De La Hoya. He was one of the best in boxing and didn’t have much of a following outside real fans. Back when I first started really watching boxing, I know about Floyd and knew he was supposed to be one of the best, but I had never seen him fight. He wasn’t near the name of Jones, Hopkins, De La Hoya, Trinidad, etc at the time. He reached the top without the fame.

    He then picked his fights more carefully once he was older and at a higher weight where basically everybody outweighed him. I would rather it not happen, but he more earned it. Canelo does the same thing without ever earning it. He didn’t have to go up in the rankings without a huge backing. He has been pushed and brought along perfectly since day 1.
    no one stated floyd was was the cash cow from day one. floyd started picking his fights more carefully after leaving lightweight. floyd was only twenty seven then. canelo took on one of the best super welters in trout, then accepted a catchweight to fight floyd, one of the bet in the sport. then took on angulo, who had gone to war with lara, then faced lara. that in itself is an impressive four fight run. he had a gimme against mandingo, then accepted another catchweight for the cotto fight. the next three fights were mainly money grabs, but out of his last six fights, only fielding was unrated. he fought the percieved best guy at middle ggg twice back to back, then another of the best at middle jacobs after fielding, then jumped two weight divisions to fight a rated titleholder, a so called weak deer that none of the other beltholders had targeted in their time as lightheavies. whatever you think about some of those decisions, canelo has fought some of the best around the weight and has one of the best current records around the weight. there is no shame in losing to a worldclass fighter, but canelo is fighting tough opposition. ggg still hasn't fought jermall yet either, charlo hasn't faced jacobs yet, something both canelo and ggg have done

    The BEST way to debunk the Canelo-Floyd comparison is simply to point out that Floyd became a superstar, A-side fighter IN SPITE of the public's hate for him. He fought tough opposition from early in his career..... absolutely NOTHING like Canelo's career. And while Floyd was universally disliked and/or hated by the American boxing fans....... Canelo was born with a silver spoon in his mouth from Day One. His boyish good looks and rugged toughness made him the NEXT BIG STAR even while he was building up a 30-some fight undefeated record against cab drivers from Tijuana (something pretty typical South of the Border). It was DECIDED that Canelo would be the next matinee idol star..... and his career has been carefully orchestrated ever since. SHIT..... even JCC Sr. railed against him in a famous interview many years back. Even when Canelo began fighting legitimate opposition, they were always carefully picked to make sure nobody dented that precious "0" on his record.

    They grossly miscalculated against Floyd. Of all the fighters Floyd beat during his career, NOBODY was a less worthy opponent in the ring than Canelo. It was a boring shutout..... a no-hitter. And in testament to Canelo's corrupt network in Vegas..... a piece of shit judge named CJ Ross had the unmitigated gall to call the fight a draw.

    But back on point...... the difference here is clear. Floyd became a megastar IN SPITE of everyone's hate for him. Canelo became a star TOTALLY because of the public's love affair with the guy. It was almost preordained.

    Every other fighter takes on real risks. They are expected to clean out their respective divisions. Every other fighter BUT CANELO, that is. Canelo gets to skate freely between divisions, picking off the weak calves from the herd.

    F*CK GINGER.

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    the only reason anyone uses the floyd-canelo comparison is because they have both reached a level of fame and stardom where they can now play the a-side game

    canelo risked his 0 against the best fighter in the sport at the time, take up the scorecard with cj

    every other fighter doesn't take on real risks and not many clean out divisions. i wish artur or bivol had of picked of that weak calf to unify

    canelo's legend will continue to grow
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    Only in that hypnotized mind of yours.

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    the truth will set you free
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    the truth will set you free

    That's what those poor bastards in Guyana said just before being offered the Kool-Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    the only reason anyone uses the floyd-canelo comparison is because they have both reached a level of fame and stardom where they can now play the a-side game

    canelo risked his 0 against the best fighter in the sport at the time, take up the scorecard with cj

    every other fighter doesn't take on real risks and not many clean out divisions. i wish artur or bivol had of picked of that weak calf to unify

    canelo's legend will continue to grow
    Bivol unified the titles which takes a lot of political and financial manoeuvring. Callum Smith has won the super middleweight tournament.

    Canelo has had the alphabet boys roll over for him whereas other fighters do not have that luxury.
    explain bivol unified the titles. callum got a gift against ryder, sounds like he got some advantages, and the tournament didn't even have fighters like james d, gilberto or david b, the dirrell's or even eubank and juergen was forced out

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    the truth will set you free

    That's what those poor bastards in Guyana said just before being offered the Kool-Aid.
    how do you know, you weren't there
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Canelo’s short list

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    the only reason anyone uses the floyd-canelo comparison is because they have both reached a level of fame and stardom where they can now play the a-side game

    canelo risked his 0 against the best fighter in the sport at the time, take up the scorecard with cj

    every other fighter doesn't take on real risks and not many clean out divisions. i wish artur or bivol had of picked of that weak calf to unify

    canelo's legend will continue to grow
    Bivol unified the titles which takes a lot of political and financial manoeuvring. Callum Smith has won the super middleweight tournament.

    Canelo has had the alphabet boys roll over for him whereas other fighters do not have that luxury.
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