Impeachment

[TitoFan]

Well tits this quite differs from your first post on the subject. If you are calling Trump the most divisive president are you leaving aside the war presidents?

War presidents? Because half the nation doesn't want war and the other does? Well.... that's kind of unavoidable, isn't it.

We're not talking about differences in basic philosophies here. Even Presidents who have chosen to go to war have tried to unite the nation behind them.

We're talking about a POTUS who can barely hide his glee when people are going at each others' throats. The worse the carnage, the happier he is.

Historically I don’t think he is the most divisive president. Shit look at Carter and he didn’t use any bad words. I see all the hate, I think it gets a little overboard. I really don’t see any of his policies or deregulation’s as bad. He says stupid stuff it doesn’t really bother me that much. I do have some serious concerns over a certain faction of the democrats. Funny we don’t hear much about it but when the tea party was first around damn they were torn up and targeted by the IRS etc. now we have a group of people holding office that call certain parts of our law enforcement bodies evil. I’m not big on law enforcement I think they have too much power and don’t always use it properly but I wouldn’t call ICE workers Nazis and want them abolished. Anyway things are what they are, I get annoyed with Trump sometimes but the squad and the radical arm of the Dems seriously scare me. They want to do some frightening shit. I’ll take bad words and stupid tweets over that anyday. Talk about divisive

How was Carter divisive?

Yeah..... I'm kinda waiting to hear the tall story on how Carter was divisive. TBH, I think people just make shit up as they go along. I've never had that talent.

Ahhhh. You don’t think the nation was divided under carter? It wasn’t his bad words it was a little more than that. How about Nixon or Johnson or Lincoln or are we just talking about presidents who talk gruff and not policies. People were burning Carter effigies in the streets of America. People don’t like 18 percent interest rates and no gas in their car, Carter was very divisive in the country.

Let's just go all out and call EVERY President in history divisive then, since roughly half of the country voted for the other guy. Isn't this just a wee bit disingenuous?

You, like every other Trump fan, don't just want to win the game....... you want to score all the baskets. Well it doesn't work that way, walrus. Trump's shit DOES stink, contrary to popular opinion.

You and I both know exactly what I'm talking about here. Carter.... Nixon..... Johnson.... Lincoln..... go down the list alphabetically or chronologically if you like.

If you SERIOUSLY want to argue that Trump isn't a divisive President (BY CHOICE AND DESIGN)...... then this argument is over before it even begun.

That's why guys like you cannot be taken seriously. In your rush to defend Trumpy from one and all critics........ you defend the indefensible.

In truth....... Trump is the MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. BY AN EXPONENTIAL MARGIN. It's not even close.



All those you mention..... they were "divisive" according to you, because not everybody agreed with what they did nor did they agree with their policies.

But NONE of those guys went out of their way to divide the country with the vindictiveness of Donald Trump.

After the impeachment proceedings, instead of taking the high road and offer to unite and fix the nation........ Trump is out for blood........ and TRUMPETS it to everyone who will listen.

A message of hate, revenge and payback.



But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

[walrus]

I don’t get it tits your a little to sensitive. You said trump was the most divisive president in history. I disagreed with that. There certainly is divisiveness regarding him but no I don’t think he was the or is the most divisive in history. If you want to say divisive I have no issue with that, if you want to say “most” I will differ and point out why I disagree. No cool aide here just talking

[walrus]

And your drop it it’s coolaide response is typical white supremacist BS

[TitoFan]

I don’t get it tits your a little to sensitive. You said trump was the most divisive president in history. I disagreed with that. There certainly is divisiveness regarding him but no I don’t think he was the or is the most divisive in history. If you want to say divisive I have no issue with that, if you want to say “most” I will differ and point out why I disagree. No cool aide here just talking

You're right bro, we're just talking. We have a difference of opinion is all.

My point, which you obviously disagree with, is that the other POTUSes divisiveness doesn't really count, because it stems solely from people not agreeing on policy. You say white..... half the people are going to say black. (I probably should've said "black" first..... now I'm sure to get criticized by little D). If you look at it that way, then all the Presidents have been divisive, and that's not being sensitive on my part. It's merely an observation. By design, people are going to be divided. It's been that way since the beginning of time.

Howeverrrrr....... regardless of how unpopular a President and his decisions might be, we've always seen at least the attempt to be a decent human being and try to unite people..... even if it's a token effort. Again..... my opinion.

With Trump, he thrives on dividing people and sicking them on each other. It's how he appeals to his base.

When other Presidents have gotten criticized, they've tried to put on a conciliatory tone on what they say. With Trump's it's all about revenge and payback. It's why everyone around him is scared shitless of him. It's why that meme on how many Republicans it takes to change a light bulb is so hilariously funny. Leadership should be about respect, not fear.

But....... I guess times have changed.