College admissions scandal in the U.S.

[Gandalf]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/un...id=mailsignout

"Universities race to quell outrage over bribery and cheating scandal in admissions"


Ok so let me get this straight. These high-profile, multi-millionaire parents, in order to ensure their kids get into the Yales and Harvards of the country..... hire this individual to basically bribe coaches and falsify entrance exams.... paying hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.

These don't seem to be very bright people. I mean, is there a guarantee that Junior isn't going to flunk out in his first year at Yale? Or were they planning to forge all his tests and bribe his professors? Even if Junior somehow graduates, how does that translate into success later in life for Junior? Is he going to be able to hold down a job? Obviously, there's very little if any return on their investment here.

I guess it's the ego thing. They must consider it worth half a million dollars to say that Junior is going to Harvard.

Either way, there's plenty of shit to pass around. Many heads will roll before it's all over. So now the universities have been thoroughly embarrassed, even if they had no idea this was happening. Just to have your name mentioned in the scandal is bad enough. Curious to see what crackdowns if any these universities will make.

I think it is something more common than people realize and it has been going on a long time. I had a friend who was doing a Masters degree back in Scotland and he was confused by how the Chinese students were doing so well. He was at the seminars and they could not express themselves very well, yet apparently were getting the best grades. I think it boils down to the fact that money gets you somewhere. They pay a lot of money.

The reality is if you do graduate from those places, then it does look a lot better than wherever in China or elsewhere in the USA. The Justice Minister here was caught with his daughter faking credentials and he has had to stand down as has his Professor wife. It is something I think is pretty endemic and most do not get caught.

Personally I think the most capable should be in those places regardless of status.

[TitoFan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/un...id=mailsignout

"Universities race to quell outrage over bribery and cheating scandal in admissions"


Ok so let me get this straight. These high-profile, multi-millionaire parents, in order to ensure their kids get into the Yales and Harvards of the country..... hire this individual to basically bribe coaches and falsify entrance exams.... paying hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.

These don't seem to be very bright people. I mean, is there a guarantee that Junior isn't going to flunk out in his first year at Yale? Or were they planning to forge all his tests and bribe his professors? Even if Junior somehow graduates, how does that translate into success later in life for Junior? Is he going to be able to hold down a job? Obviously, there's very little if any return on their investment here.

I guess it's the ego thing. They must consider it worth half a million dollars to say that Junior is going to Harvard.

Either way, there's plenty of shit to pass around. Many heads will roll before it's all over. So now the universities have been thoroughly embarrassed, even if they had no idea this was happening. Just to have your name mentioned in the scandal is bad enough. Curious to see what crackdowns if any these universities will make.

I think it is something more common than people realize and it has been going on a long time. I had a friend who was doing a Masters degree back in Scotland and he was confused by how the Chinese students were doing so well. He was at the seminars and they could not express themselves very well, yet apparently were getting the best grades. I think it boils down to the fact that money gets you somewhere. They pay a lot of money.

The reality is if you do graduate from those places, then it does look a lot better than wherever in China or elsewhere in the USA. The Justice Minister here was caught with his daughter faking credentials and he has had to stand down as has his Professor wife. It is something I think is pretty endemic and most do not get caught.

Personally I think the most capable should be in those places regardless of status.

You're right it's very common and happens everywhere. Money may not buy you everything... but it can certainly buy you admission into the best universities. The flip side is that normally these "bought" admissions end up yielding less than desirable outcomes. Little Johnny gets accepted into Yale, but ends up doing precious little with his life. Probably because the lesson he learned is one of entitlement... and he carries that into the real world and falls flat on his face. Meanwhile, it's a selfish thing for parents who can gloat over caviar and champagne parties that their offspring got accepted into Yale or Harvard. Foolishly spent money, if you ask me. Better to spend your money in other things, and give little Johnny the upbringing he needs to truly succeed in the world.

This particular case though, is important because it involves a well-known Hollywood celebrity who embodies the person who "has everything." Money, looks, social status, influence..... you name it. She's married to some hotshot Italian designer husband..... and she thinks they both walk on water. Her body language when first dragged into court said it all. Flipping back her hair.... smiling for the cameras... waving at her adoring fans. F*ck that nonsense. If she somehow gets acquitted, she'll flaunt that in everyone's faces (ha, ha, ha..... I'm better than everybody once again)..... and recoup her legal costs many times over with speaking engagements, like many high-profile criminals do nowadays.