Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

[Freedom]

I'm quite certain Wilder will either KO Fury or win by gift decision/robbery.

Fury with his mental problems will probably lose his focus sometime during the fight and get KOed.

If not, American boxers don't lose decisions to foreign boxers in Las Vegas. Wilder will have the judges on his side - so even if he's outboxed by Fury like in the last fight, he will still win the rounds on the judges cards.

There is ZERO chance Fury KOs Wilder - he simply doesn't have the power.

[Mark TKO]

Can’t see Fury losing if he’s still standing at the final bell - even in Vegas.

He’s too good a boxer for Wilder and not afraid to win ugly.

Let’s not forget even Audley Harrison was well ahead of Wilder on all 3 scorecards before Wilder landed.

[Mark TKO]

That was my 8000th post by the way.

I’ll take a short break here and wait for the applause to die down

[TitoFan]

That was my 8000th post by the way.

I’ll take a short break here and wait for the applause to die down

[Primo Carnera]

I'm quite certain Wilder will either KO Fury or win by gift decision/robbery.

Fury with his mental problems will probably lose his focus sometime during the fight and get KOed.

If not, American boxers don't lose decisions to foreign boxers in Las Vegas. Wilder will have the judges on his side - so even if he's outboxed by Fury like in the last fight, he will still win the rounds on the judges cards.

There is ZERO chance Fury KOs Wilder - he simply doesn't have the power.

Nail on the head. The thing is , even though Fury is a better boxer, and will possibly have the better of the fight, how the fuck can he possibly win?
Appears unlikely to KO Wilder, and will not get the decision.
He has spoken about going with this new trainer because he’s focussing on a KO which means taking a risk.
If that’s not just chat, then fair play to him, risky , but having read above, what choice does he have?

[TIC]

new trainer and minimal sparring could spell trouble for tyson

[nuggetdotcom]

I'm quite certain Wilder will either KO Fury or win by gift decision/robbery.

Fury with his mental problems will probably lose his focus sometime during the fight and get KOed.

If not, American boxers don't lose decisions to foreign boxers in Las Vegas. Wilder will have the judges on his side - so even if he's outboxed by Fury like in the last fight, he will still win the rounds on the judges cards.

There is ZERO chance Fury KOs Wilder - he simply doesn't have the power.

Nail on the head. The thing is , even though Fury is a better boxer, and will possibly have the better of the fight, how the fuck can he possibly win?
Appears unlikely to KO Wilder, and will not get the decision.
He has spoken about going with this new trainer because he’s focussing on a KO which means taking a risk.
If that’s not just chat, then fair play to him, risky , but having read above, what choice does he have?

Back the fix as a saver, draw or Wilder points, really good odds on bet365

[TIC]

tyson just ahead in the poll overall

[Master]

Tyson Fury set to light up Vegas but must keep promise against Deontay Wilder to join the greats

Hallelujah, the big men are back on the streets of Las Vegas with their promises, their agendas and their special ability to make the fight city special for a week.

The gun shows and the sex shows generate more cash for this place, but it takes a title fight, an old-fashioned scrap with bad blood on tap and a suitably unwritten ending, to give the city the feeling that helped make it the grandest of destinations.

Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder will run this city for a few days before Saturday’s overdue and welcome rematch at the MGM. Their fight posters fill vast walls and there is a ceremonial ring in the casino lobby – at midnight on Sunday people were queuing for selfies by the ring. In a place of great sparkle it is good to note that the WBC belt, the title for the night, and any other glittering baubles strapped to the fight have been relegated to the back of the sporting jewellery shop. Please spare us all that desperate scrambling by men in suits, nudging, pushing and fake-smiling as they try to attach their belt first to the winner at the end. It has become an ugly ritual and needs to stop.

Heavyweights, their dubious flocks and everybody desperate to be in the heavyweight business have been descending on Las Vegas for over fifty years, travelling through the lonely maze of a city that makes and breaks people every hour on the clock. Heavyweights have gone through the boxing grinder here for too long, men shaped by their dreams, crushed by losses and left not understanding either.

The first heavyweight championship fight to ever take place in Las Vegas was in the summer of 1963, a time when men in large hats carried weapons at ringside and watched a 130-second massacre of Floyd Patterson by Sonny Liston. At the Convention Centre that night a young Cassius Clay ran to every microphone to sell his image to the factory of fun players.

It is the city Mike Tyson owned, that Ali put on the boxing map, that Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield traded punches in the sport’s last heavyweight golden period. A time, by the way, we foolishly took for granted from our privileged seats, but is now studied for its many noble nights. And a few ignoble ones – a lump of Holyfield’s bloody ear on the canvas will never fade.

It is also the city where champions Liston and Joe Louis came to die, leaving behind regret, mystery and a statue. There is an endless list of great heavyweights that packed rings here for titles, for money and for the hell of it on occasion: George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes, Leon Spinks, Gerry Cooney, Joe Bugner, Ron Lyle, Jerry Quarry and Earnie Shavers all fighting like their life depended on it during days and nights now neglected or forgotten. Many remained or returned for the fights, long into life and retirement they still came back to haunt the casino floors on big weeks.



Nobody can forget the vanishing act of Buster Douglas one night in 2000, over 20 million dollars richer, but bundled out in shame from his digs at the Mirage after his loss to Holyfield – it takes a lot to be kicked out of this place.

There was also the violent siege in a hotel suite involving unbeaten Ike Ibeabuchi, the best heavyweight you have never heard of and the man expected to be king. Big Ike, known as The President, took a stripper hostage, threatened lunacy and was then gassed and cuffed and imprisoned to end his boxing life. The fall of Oliver McCall one day at the Hilton is still fresh; watching his manic dialogue as he withdrew publicly from drug addiction during a breakdown – he was fighting for the heavyweight title live on American television at the time. It was also the city of two savage failures for Frank Bruno against Tyson. Even Anthony Joshua fought here when he was a skinny amateur. Heavyweights simply have to fight and win here.

Fury is a great fit for the city with his garish suits, crooning skills and ability to shake the hands of kings and paupers – shallow icons and the wretched – each time he walks the halls of the casino canyons. Ali and Elvis, two Las Vegas goldmines, had that same human touch in this city with few barriers. I have heard respected veterans out here mention Fury in the same sentence as both – he’s a better singer than one and a better fighter than the other, that is for sure.

It is a city where history is made in boxing rings by the heavyweights that arrive with their accolades, their missions and an ageless fighting desire to leave behind forever a special piece of wonder. Fury and Wilder are just the latest on the sport’s greatest stage, two very big men making promises.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/tys...104100950.html

[Mark TKO]

The Ring expert picks below , 12-8 in favour of Wilder

I'm favouring Wilder more and more as fight night approaches. Just can't see him not landing that nuke and ending it

https://www.ringtv.com/591951-fight-...-tyson-fury-2/

[Master]

Fury believes Wilder sacked promoter Lou DiBella because of his reaction to their draw

Tyson Fury has claimed the he knows the real reason Deontay Wilder parted ways with promoter Lou DiBella in early 2019.

Last month, DiBella came out and declared that he’d been exiled from Wilder’s team after setting up a meeting with rival US broadcaster DAZN about a potential network switch for showdown with Anthony Joshua.

However, Fury disagrees with this line of thinking and instead believes DiBella was sacked after being seen on camera telling him he won at the end of the controversial draw.

Fury told BT Sport: “Me and my team were celebrating. I was running round with my hands up.

“Wilder’s head was in his corner like he was getting consoled. His trainer was patting him on the back.

“Even his promoter came over to me and you can hear it on one of the interviews and said, “You won that fight,” before the decision.

“I think that’s why he’s probably had the sack.”



DiBella previously told iFL TV: “My relationship professionally as a promoter for Deontay Wilder and working with his team ended when I set up the DAZN meeting, which is perverse.

“What did I do? I tried to talk to everyone in the marketplace and make a best effort to make the most money for a guy that I cared about.

“Isn’t that what I’m supposed to do?”

DAZN offered Wilder a three-fight deal worth a reported $100million which would have consisted of a mandatory defence against Dominic Breazeale, followed by two Joshua fights.

Despite initially indicating he was excited by the idea, Wilder ultimately changed his mind, rejected the offer and stayed loyal to Showtime and FOX.

When the Breazeale fight did happen – on Showtime – DiBella was no longer involved.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...2-lou-dibella/

[sanatogen]

Fury jab the chest and take out wilder small body.
By late rounds just jab wilder to a pulp.

[Alpha]

Still think Wilder should come out aggressive and force the pace, even more so with Fury's added weight and outside the ring distractions.

[ykdadamaja]

Fury came in at 273 pounds. Means he isn't trained up for this fight and he has sluggy food in his system. Wilder KO by 8 or 9, Fury tries to get up from a big shot but unable to.

[Alpha]

If the fight gets stopped on Fury's cut, it gives built in reasons for the supposedly already agreed upon 3rd fight.