New trainer for Wilder?

[Master]

A leopard never changes its spots.

Wilder will not improve at this stage of his career and should carry on relying on his equaliser because that is his best weapon and got him where he was in boxing. He can make slight adjustments but nothing major.

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I think that ship has sailed & sunk.

Wilder is coming up 35, he isn't going to learn anything now.

Wilder can still beat most people with his demonic power, but he's just not ever going to beat someone like Fury.

[imp]

The trainer said the entrance outfit might have been too heavy..?!

[Primo Carnera]

Well it looks like Breland has been hung out to dry. Jay Deas saying he knew nothing about throwing the towel in .
To be honest , blood coming out of his ear that couldn’t be stopped, they shoulda stopped the fight earlier.
Deas saying Wilder is “go out on his shield kind of guy” is everything that is wrong , as the trainer , you have to have compassion for your fighter, don’t expect your fighter to quit.
Leaving him in there , in a fight that he had virtually no chance of winning despite that fabled “big right” to keep taking punishment on that ear, increasing the chance of more permanent damage is piss poor.
And from a technical side of things , it’s strange because Breland has forgotten more than Deas and Wilder know about Boxing skill.
That doesn’t guarantee that he can be a good trainer, but on the other side, Deas and Wilder are in camp every day, and look at the fighter Wilder is and more importantly how he fights and if there has been any improvement in skil over all these years.

[sanatogen]

Breland got it spot on imho. He may however be given his equivalent of a P45 for saving the fighter from themselves.

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Breland got it spot on imho. He may however be given his equivalent of a P45 for saving the fighter from themselves.

Agreed.

Wilder had been struggling for three rounds.

He was becoming exhausted & he had little or no chance of beating Fury at that or any stage.

Breland did the right thing.

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[Master]

The ref should never accept a towel from a corner to stop a fight. Did the ref even see the towel? Thought he stopped it himself.

[Batman]

I think that ship has sailed & sunk.

Wilder is coming up 35, he isn't going to learn anything now.

Wilder can still beat most people with his demonic power, but he's just not ever going to beat someone like Fury.

I think it's strange that more people haven't mentioned that Wilder is 35 years old, how much more can he be expected to learn at this age?

I understand that Manny changed his game late on but let's be honest he is a legend, we are talking about someone completely stripping Wilder back and teaching him the fundamentals, fuck sake if he has got to 35 years of age and people are still posting about him needing to be taught how to throw a jab it shows just how much he needs to learn and just how big the job would be.

I'm not saying Wilder is a bum, far from it, even now with that right hand he has a chance against anyone but that is his only weapon and I can't see that changing any time soon.

[Fenster]

Wilder has never had to change anything because he only needs to be perfect for one moment everyone else in history - including Ali and Tyson - need to be perfect for 36 minutes. Nobody can get through 12 rounds with the hardest puncher in history (even though a fat, pony statue had already done exactly that).

His trainers, team, hype boys, fellow fighters and clueless fans have been living by this mantra for years.

And as much as I respect Memphis (someone here always worth reading) he should wash his mouth out for putting Manny in the same breath as Wilder. That one arm Manny looked like Naz compared to the atomic windmill. And prime Freddy Roach Manny would have ironed him out. Fact.

[Memphis]

Manny blamed his socks one time. The parallels are there is all I'm saying

[TitoFan]

More than a new trainer, which I agree Wilder does need, maybe Wilder should take Big George up on his offer.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02...-visiting-him/

A lot of wisdom comes from experience. If anyone suffered a catastrophic first loss after being seen as virtually invincible, it was George Foreman.

Wilder needs a little help getting his head straight after that comprehensive beating. Foreman can help with that.

Will Deontay accept the offer? I doubt it. His damaged ego probably won't let him.

But I think he'd benefit from it.

[J_Undisputed]

Most of the guys that could have sorted him out and rewired him are gone.

- Eddie Futch could train a variety of styles.
- Manny Steward would have been an obvious choice considering his affinity long tall fighters. Fury already bagged what was left of Manny's legacy
- Rich Giachetti, would have had a lot to teach Wilder, but I don't know if there would have been enough raw material to work with for him. Its not like Holmes.


Roach would be good in the sense that He can probably teach wilder to set up that right better and land it from some different angles. The problem is I think Freddy would wear wilder out. Wilder couldn't stay on his toes for that long and still do everything he needs to work a jab, angles and circle instead of moving straight back. Wilder already wears himself out with bad form and big misses a lot of time.

Ronnie Shields had some heavyweights (a few of wilders opponents arreola, szpilka- so hes already familiar with him) hanging with wilder till he got caught and has some good fighters (lara, rigo, etc) in his stable that wilder can glean things from. They have that southern life connection but Does he have enough time to concentrate on wilder though.

Buddy mcgirt has been known for some good makeovers in a fighters twilight (gatti, Kovalev, etc) gets points alone for the midfight haircut he gave malignaggi.

Joe Goosen always seemed to be good about keeping it simple and effective. Hes understood by his fighters and can rally them late in a fight.

I'd probably look at the last two if I was making a decision. They seem to provide the biggest turnover in the shortest amount of time.

[TitoFan]

More than a new trainer, which I agree Wilder does need, maybe Wilder should take Big George up on his offer.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02...-visiting-him/

A lot of wisdom comes from experience. If anyone suffered a catastrophic first loss after being seen as virtually invincible, it was George Foreman.

Wilder needs a little help getting his head straight after that comprehensive beating. Foreman can help with that.

Will Deontay accept the offer? I doubt it. His damaged ego probably won't let him.

But I think he'd benefit from it.

Seems like Wilder is open to the idea.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/03...reman-to-talk/


Good choice. His ego should be put aside and he should be willing to accept whatever positive feedback from anyone who can actually help him.

I don't think Foreman should coach him.... but I think Foreman can help work with his head a little.

Read something about Floyd, too. I'm not so sure that would be a good idea.

Wilder is incapable of totally retooling..... and Floyd is too much of a loose cannon, IMO, to dedicate himself fully to the task of improving Wilder without injecting some of his own ego issues.


For sure Wilder needs to make some serious adjustments and be willing to learn some new skills. But keep it real.