FURY vs Wilder 3?

[Master]

I don't see the point in Wilder 3, at least not immediately

Fury has proved beyond doubt that he is better than Wilder.

He took the first fight when he wasn't ready, got off the floor twice and still beat Wilder, despite not getting the decision.

He dominated Wilder in the rematch and the corner were right to throw in the towel as Deontay was struggling well before that.

A third fight will prove nothing.

I'd like to see Fury V Joshua by the end of the year for all the trinkets.

It's about time we had an undisputed By HW champion.

That would be the logical thing to do and what fans want but if it is to happen it should be a summer fight at Wembley or Spurs stadium.

Boxing politics and personalities will mean the fight happening in 2021.

[sanatogen]

I'd imagine most of the media pundits went for Wilder to win by KO.

Based on what actually happened, a rematch may not be attractive right now.

[Primo Carnera]

2 things.
1. What will Wilder do differently?
2. Wilder is 35 years old.
IF he continues, the rematch is his only choice. He might think of it as his pension fight, 40% of the purse already agreed and ride off into the sunset.
If Hearn tempts Fury (if they want it.) then Wilder is done. He’s too old to wait around and he’s not gonna earn his way up beating contenders.
There is a possible curve ball. Hearn may offer Wilder a big money fight with Joshua.
They could still market it into big money (Wilder wasn’t his best, the ear made all the difference, his baddie ankle, blah, blah.) bullshit sells.
Why would Hearn do this?
1. To stop AJ being on the periphery and stay relevant.
2. Because they fancy the job.
3. Because they don’t fancy the Fury job. So it puts Fury on the periphery and they hope that with idle time and frustration, Fury self destructs with his “bi-polar mental fragility.”

[Mark TKO]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Hearn went for Wilder and you give some good reasons.

I don’t think AJ believes he can beat Fury. I’m not too sure he can beat a damaged Wilder as he gets caught too often but it’s the easier option if he wants to look like he wants to be considered elite level.

[Master]

There is no way AJ will fight Wilder, there is nothing in it for Joshua. No title no honour in the win. AJ would have everything to lose.

Fury would tease AJ for taking the fight and he would be ridiculed for taking poor seconds.

[imp]

Strange how one loss can be so devastating...bomb squad won’t be yelled for a long time.

[GAME]

Strange how one loss can be so devastating...bomb squad won’t be yelled for a long time.

yep. Bubble has well and truly been burst.

there will no no intimidation now. He's got no skills, he's old, he's just been knocked out by a perceived pillow puncher and his power bounced off a guy who'd been dropped by a cruiserweight.

The mental strength wilder needs going into a 3rd fury fight exceeds that of what Joshua needed to overcome his demons. Joshua was fighting a guy who had already been beaten by Parker and he was winning the fight before walking onto a punch. Wilder was not in the fight from the start vs fury and there is no blueprint for beating the gypsy king

[TitoFan]

There is no way AJ will fight Wilder, there is nothing in it for Joshua. No title no honour in the win. AJ would have everything to lose.

Fury would tease AJ for taking the fight and he would be ridiculed for taking poor seconds.

That giant whooshing sound we just heard was the sigh of relief from Joshua that he doesn't need to fight Wilder anymore.

[Primo Carnera]

There is no way AJ will fight Wilder, there is nothing in it for Joshua. No title no honour in the win. AJ would have everything to lose.

Fury would tease AJ for taking the fight and he would be ridiculed for taking poor seconds.

Yep, of course he would. But in the meantime, who would Fury be fighting?
We all know Fury fights to the level of the guy he’s fighting. He’s not gonna take any risk for relatively shit money . That’s a fact, look at who he fought between Wilder 1 & 2.
And before you say “Wallin was a risk”, yeah we know that now, but never knew it then .
And it was only a risk because Fury clearly didn’t prepare well enough or was motivated enough.

[Mark TKO]

Exactly that. He needs the elite level opponents and Joshua aside now who else is there? I know usyk is around and his highly skilled but not sure he's physically equipped to cope with Fury.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

Anyone who wants Deontay to fight a third fight after seeing that is a cold heartless SOB, and I include his team in that. The guy was bleeding from the mouth and ear and will be psychologically crushed and Fury will be the overwhelming favorite in a third fight. It's borderline dangerous. Boxing is risky enough as it is, Deontay apparently made a load of money from this fight and risking your health is not worth if for a few more mil. I think PBC wants a cash out

A fully fit Tyson Fury was the first elite level opponent Wilder had faced in over 40 fights, and we saw what happened. He doesn't really belong at that level, and he never will.

But boxing is a business. So he's gonna want to take the 3rd fight. He just made 28 million & that doesn’t include the 50% of all other revenue yet. He will get 40% guaranteed for the 3rd fight. When is he going to make 20-30 million again if he doesn’t take it ? I don’t think he would really care if he lost again. Would you ?

Taking the immediate rematch secures his family, especially when Arum is saying if he doesn’t take it, the opportunity may not be there to fight Fury again. IMO if he feels like he still has something to prove then he needs to rebuild, which will be the biggest rebuilding job ever but that's the only sensible option. Fire trainers and management or at least hire an Abel Sanchez type trainer who'd help work on inside fight game uppercuts.

But although I feel he'll sign for the fight, I still think the fight won't happen. In fact I'll be amazed if it happens. A way will be worked out behind the scenes for it not to happen and for Wilder to save face.

[Mark TKO]

Question re the trilogy fight.

Been thinking about this and have no problem at all really with Wilder wanting a rematch if it's a clause in contract. He was champion and he will want to correct that blemish on his record - and let's face it if he doesn't take it now he may never get it. Do I want to see it ? No as I don't believe Wilder can do anything differently and his right hand and a lapse of concentration by Fury is his only chance.

The draw the year before is what mars this one. Wilder was outclassed for the most part and landed his bomb in round 12 to get out of jail and steal the draw. They've fought 19 rounds and Wilder has been second best in 15-16 of them.

So I'm guessing this last fight was the start of a brand new title challenge with the same terms. Wilder didn't have to give Fury another shot ? Had they fought each other immediately again without going off and fighting others would there have been a rematch clause still ?

I'm wondering now why Holyfield never fought Lewis again back in the day after a draw and defeat.

I don't really know what I'm asking, maybe just ranting.

Guess I think after a draw and comprehensive defeat Wilder shouldn't be entitled to that clause.

Bye

[Master]

Lewis should have got the decision against Holyfield in their first but the second was closer and warranted a 3rd fight.

Wilder may never get a chance for the rematch so has to trigger this clause.

I hope Fury destroys Wilder quicker and can set up the fight with AJ.

If by some miracle Wilder does win, we then have to have a 4th fight!

[Beanz]

Question re the trilogy fight.

Been thinking about this and have no problem at all really with Wilder wanting a rematch if it's a clause in contract. He was champion and he will want to correct that blemish on his record - and let's face it if he doesn't take it now he may never get it. Do I want to see it ? No as I don't believe Wilder can do anything differently and his right hand and a lapse of concentration by Fury is his only chance.

The draw the year before is what mars this one. Wilder was outclassed for the most part and landed his bomb in round 12 to get out of jail and steal the draw. They've fought 19 rounds and Wilder has been second best in 15-16 of them.

So I'm guessing this last fight was the start of a brand new title challenge with the same terms. Wilder didn't have to give Fury another shot ? Had they fought each other immediately again without going off and fighting others would there have been a rematch clause still ?

I'm wondering now why Holyfield never fought Lewis again back in the day after a draw and defeat.

I don't really know what I'm asking, maybe just ranting.

Guess I think after a draw and comprehensive defeat Wilder shouldn't be entitled to that clause.

Bye

If it happens it should be here. Ridiculous if not. Wait for Wilder to cry about it if it is suggested though.

[Master]

Question re the trilogy fight.

Been thinking about this and have no problem at all really with Wilder wanting a rematch if it's a clause in contract. He was champion and he will want to correct that blemish on his record - and let's face it if he doesn't take it now he may never get it. Do I want to see it ? No as I don't believe Wilder can do anything differently and his right hand and a lapse of concentration by Fury is his only chance.

The draw the year before is what mars this one. Wilder was outclassed for the most part and landed his bomb in round 12 to get out of jail and steal the draw. They've fought 19 rounds and Wilder has been second best in 15-16 of them.

So I'm guessing this last fight was the start of a brand new title challenge with the same terms. Wilder didn't have to give Fury another shot ? Had they fought each other immediately again without going off and fighting others would there have been a rematch clause still ?

I'm wondering now why Holyfield never fought Lewis again back in the day after a draw and defeat.

I don't really know what I'm asking, maybe just ranting.

Guess I think after a draw and comprehensive defeat Wilder shouldn't be entitled to that clause.

Bye

If it happens it should be here. Ridiculous if not. Wait for Wilder to cry about it if it is suggested though.

It is in the contract that the rematch must be in the USA.