Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

[TitoFan]

Never rule anything out in boxing, Tito. That is being objective. The rematch will happen and all questions can and will be answered. People are alwayschigh after a fight. Don't forget Fury was 'done' a fight ago. A new camp, a change of mindset, and things can and do change quickly.

I would say Fury is favorite in a rematch, but Wilder will be a live underdog.

First, the rematch is no sure thing. Let's start there. Questions? I don't know too many more questions left unanswered. Both went into the fight knowing what to expect from the other. Trilogies are sometimes fun and even needed..... but not all the time. Granted, if a 3rd fight occurred, I'd be rooting for Wilder again. But Fury's a smart guy. He's also an emboldened guy. Wilder's right hand was the huge question mark going into the 1st fight. How would Fury react? Question answered. Yes..... Fury is a maddening fighter to follow. He can implode as easily as he can improve. So everything's possible.

But right now I'd be looking at other horizons for the both of them.

[Beanz]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

[sanatogen]

Just on thevpassing, found this short interview withbMax Kellerman before the fight where he lays it out.

[TitoFan]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

[Beanz]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

That was a perfectly valid and rational response to Gandalfs idea that despite dominating Wilder for nearly 17 rounds now, it was all just a fluke, and not something Fury could replicate. To contort yourself that much in order to avoid giving a boxer like Fury credit is beyond stupid and shows a crass disrespect for both boxers. Not everything is about you believe it or not.

[Master]

Anthony Joshua would be underdog against Tyson Fury, says Eddie Hearn

Promoter Eddie Hearn has said “we’d be clowns” if he failed to agree a deal for Anthony Joshua to fight the new WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, adding that his camp relish the prospect of their fighter going into the fight as underdog.

Following Fury’s dominant seventh-round stoppage victory over Deontay Wilder in Las Vegas on Sunday, which ended when the beaten champion’s corner threw in the towel, clamour has inevitably grown for an all-British unification fight with Joshua, who holds the WBO, IBO, WBA and IBF belts. Hearn said he has no intention of getting in the way of a showdown between the pair taking place.

He told Sky Sports News: “I said to AJ last night: ‘The great thing about this is, you’re going into the fight as the underdog.’ Very rarely will you see AJ go into any fight as the underdog but this time, you look at the betting markets, AJ is the underdog against Tyson Fury. Perfect – just how we want it. We believe we’ve got the man who can be the undisputed heavyweight world champion. Tyson Fury believes he can beat Anthony Joshua. Only one way to find out – let’s make it happen.”

Joshua regained his belts in December after atoning for last June’s shock defeat to unfancied Andy Ruiz Jr with an emphatic points victory in the rematch, in which he showcased impressive skills and tactics, rather than the all-power approach that had marked the bulk of his 21 knockout victories.



Of Fury, Hearn said he is a “great fighter … a very clever fighter and now he’s shown a little bit of another dimension where he’s gone in and been aggressive in the fight. Will he do that against Anthony Joshua? Different kettle of fish … Joshua is not a 15-stone Deontay Wilder who can punch a bit but looks bad going backwards, can get mauled in clinches and get punched around. Joshua is a big, big heavyweight – as they both are. When they come together it’s going to be something very special.

Fury said following Sunday’s bout that he was “almost sure” he would face Wilder again to complete a trilogy of meetings with the Alabama fighter, having shared a draw at their first outing in December 2018. The deal for the return featured a rematch clause which gives Wilder’s team 30 days to consider the option of a third fight, in which the purse would be divided 60-40 in Fury’s favour. Hearn had earlier said: “I don’t think anyone wants to see a third fight, it was that conclusive, but we will see if he wants to exercise that. I probably expect Wilder [to take the rematch]. I don’t see where else he has to go.”

Joshua, meanwhile, has been lined up to defend his belts in London against the IBF’s mandatory challenger, Kubrat Pulev of Bulgaria, with a June date ready to be announced should his camp fail to secure a Fury fight first.

Heard said of the potential implications should the pair take other bouts first: “Everybody wants this fight. I promise you this fight will happen. If we have to fight Pulev, we’ve got to beat Pulev and if he has to fight Wilder he’s got to beat Wilder again. Both of those things will happen – Fury will beat Wilder again and AJ will knock Pulev clean out. You will get this fight. We will do everything that it takes to make this fight. You have two camps that genuinely want this fight. We’d be clowns if we didn’t make this fight … in Britain we are the kings of the world in boxing right now. Let’s not waste it.”

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ant...130525879.html

[Freedom]

[Freedom]

[Gandalf]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

That was a perfectly valid and rational response to Gandalfs idea that despite dominating Wilder for nearly 17 rounds now, it was all just a fluke, and not something Fury could replicate. To contort yourself that much in order to avoid giving a boxer like Fury credit is beyond stupid and shows a crass disrespect for both boxers. Not everything is about you believe it or not.

I had the first fight 8-4 Fury with 2 KD's,for Wilder.

This fight was just odd. Fury is the better boxer overall and I already gave him credit for the win, but you are so vile you couldn't restrain yourself.

Mark Tko and Tito understand civilized and there is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion. Now you continue with 'beyond stupid'

Wipe your keyboard once in a while.

[Beanz]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

That was a perfectly valid and rational response to Gandalfs idea that despite dominating Wilder for nearly 17 rounds now, it was all just a fluke, and not something Fury could replicate. To contort yourself that much in order to avoid giving a boxer like Fury credit is beyond stupid and shows a crass disrespect for both boxers. Not everything is about you believe it or not.

I had the first fight 8-4 Fury with 2 KD's,for Wilder.

This fight was just odd. Fury is the better boxer overall and I already gave him credit for the win, but you are so vile you couldn't restrain yourself.

Mark Tko and Tito understand civilized and there is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion. Now you continue with 'beyond stupid'

Wipe your keyboard once in a while.

I have been perfectly restrained, if the pair of you cannot refrain from getting personal you are probably on the wrong forum. You gave Fury no credit at all. 'Beyond stupid' is hardly vile it is a perfect explanation of your refusal to accept what you saw unfold. There was nothing odd about it at all. Wilder got beaten because he has always been one dimensional.

[Gandalf]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

That was a perfectly valid and rational response to Gandalfs idea that despite dominating Wilder for nearly 17 rounds now, it was all just a fluke, and not something Fury could replicate. To contort yourself that much in order to avoid giving a boxer like Fury credit is beyond stupid and shows a crass disrespect for both boxers. Not everything is about you believe it or not.

I had the first fight 8-4 Fury with 2 KD's,for Wilder.

This fight was just odd. Fury is the better boxer overall and I already gave him credit for the win, but you are so vile you couldn't restrain yourself.

Mark Tko and Tito understand civilized and there is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion. Now you continue with 'beyond stupid'

Wipe your keyboard once in a while.

I have been perfectly restrained, if the pair of you cannot refrain from getting personal you are probably on the wrong forum. You gave Fury no credit at all. 'Beyond stupid' is hardly vile it is a perfect explanation of your refusal to accept what you saw unfold. There was nothing odd about it at all. Wilder got beaten because he has always been one dimensional.

You are seldom restrained. Does it really take 10 forum members for that still not to sink in?

[TitoFan]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

...... and that's with me defending Fury over Wilder. Imagine how'd you feel if I was dumping on Fury. You'd have to double up on your meds.

That was a perfectly valid and rational response to Gandalfs idea that despite dominating Wilder for nearly 17 rounds now, it was all just a fluke, and not something Fury could replicate. To contort yourself that much in order to avoid giving a boxer like Fury credit is beyond stupid and shows a crass disrespect for both boxers. Not everything is about you believe it or not.

What the fuck are you on about?

Do us all a favor.

Get your Aspergers med dosage upped.

[Gandalf]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

Beanz wants to be a wanker? Okay, here goes....

They made a film recently called Parasite about a creepy man who cannot make eye contact who preys on single mothers as he thinks they have lower expectations of the men they are dating as nobody else will touch him with a barge pole. Or was that About a Boy with Hugh Grant? Check it out.

[Gandalf]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

Beanz do not lie. It all started with this amazing contribution to the thread. All I was doing was making a few observations on a fight and you couldn't control yourself. You had to reduce the tone to ESB level language with your own personal vendetta. You had no politeness and could have just pointed out why I was wrong, but no. It was just typical loutish, thuggery in a thread where everyone was getting on. Isn't that a good thing when that is happening? I was saying funny things, just observing things, and just hanging with my boxing crew and you lowered it man.

So, you have tried to twist it, but that is where it started.

[TitoFan]

I have no words for such shitwittery.

Beanz do not lie. It all started with this amazing contribution to the thread. All I was doing was making a few observations on a fight and you couldn't control yourself. You had to reduce the tone to ESB level language with your own personal vendetta. You had no politeness and could have just pointed out why I was wrong, but no. It was just typical loutish, thuggery in a thread where everyone was getting on. Isn't that a good thing when that is happening? I was saying funny things, just observing things, and just hanging with my boxing crew and you lowered it man.

So, you have tried to twist it, but that is where it started.

Pay no mind, Miles. He's already been told to keep his shit off the boxing boards, as should we. If he persists, that's his goddamn problem.

Let's get back to discussing how it's too bad Wilder will never get a crack at Joshua now that he's lost so devastatingly to Fury.