Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

[TitoFan]

And a final point is that Wilder has no quit in him. I think even with his legs gone, he still saw what Fury was doing and wanted to ride it out. Now I don't think that should have happened as he was damaged and not able to avoid punches as his lower body which is his usual tool was not there, but even in a weakened state he keeps going. There is no Khan style implosion mechanism at work there.

Wilder has a chin, he has a punch, and he can genuinely put Fury to sleep which Fury cannot do to Wilder. For me there is still interest there and seeing a fighter having lost it all try again is part of the fascination.

For the record, I'll say that if Wilder truly wants the rematch and Fury is up to it..... why not? I'd be rooting for Wilder, but betting on Fury.

Were Wilder to pull it off, it would be a humongous feather in his cap.

But we must think even further ahead. What happens if the rematch doesn't occur, or if Fury beats Wilder yet again. Wilder is certainly not going to quit/retire..... and he's still fully capable of beating the vast majority of HW's out there today.

Do we have to exclude Joshua simply because in some people's minds "Joshua doesn't need him anymore"?

No.

Wilder-Joshua is STILL a fascinating fight to put together, and it's not a done deal that Joshua would necessarily win.

Fury had size, boxing skills, and a chin to bring to the table. Joshua brings power.... but he doesn't tower over Wilder like Fury does..... he's not the boxer Fury is..... and his chin is likely more susceptible than Fury's.

There's other possibilities too. If I was Wilder, I'd want to get back on that horse as quickly as possible. Probably with one tuneup to make sure all cylinders are firing correctly after that beating he absorbed.

[Gandalf]

I have heard he has 30 days to activate the rematch clause. Knowing that and how Fury has a tendency to retire or fight easier fights, I think he will want to go out on his shield. I just think it is similar to how it was. He either hurts Fury or gets outboxed.

It looked opportunistic here to me on Fury's part, but of course you pounce on a hurt fighter and humiliate him. Credit to Fury for doing that. Wilder at 34 is approaching the end though and if he wants glory he has to knock out Fury.

He knows Fury cannot knock him out as Fury stops few proper HW's. So why not? Get it done for the late summer period. If Wilder loses he can retire or finish with a few fights against others. A few losses doesn't mean the complete end. There is dignity in being 100% and losing, but you will always have questions in your head if you lose and you knew it wasn't your best.

[Gandalf]

BTW, I appreciate the civility within our conversation. It would be nice if the teenager of the forum would take note.

[Mark TKO]

Wilder couldn't beat the Fury coming back after his lay off. He has one weapon and that's what saved him and got him the draw last time.

That's a fight most thought Fury won and yesterday was a comprehensive beating. Fury was well on top and in control before he hurt his ear which may have affected his balance.

I was leaning towards a wilder win as thought he would land. I was way off the mark. A third bout would be just waiting for him to land it. His only chance. If I was him I wouldn't want to go again - unless for the pay day.

Like ruiz let him have a couple of good wins to get back in line - though of course fury wouldn't be obliged then with no clause.

Let it go for now miles and let's have the British unification fight.