Taliban

**walrus** · 03-01-2020 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

How does the U.S. intend to confirm that the Taliban is holding up its end of the deal? I see a lot of potential issues here, and it always boils down to the same thing..... verification. Hopefully it'll all work out though.

Definitely. How can you trust them? As far as we couldn’t beat them, we certainly could if we went balls to the wall carpet bombing etc. I’m not saying we should do that, I’d be against it, just saying

**walrus** · 03-02-2020 07:33 AM

X · 03-02-2020 02:18 PM

Of course we'd can't trust them. Of course they won't keep to any deal that is made. Of course they won't stop being our implacable enemies. Of course they won't stop plotting against us.

But after a decade+ of war, we could not defeat them ..... so we are essentially suing for "peace" just to get the hell out of their country

**Kirkland Laing** · 03-02-2020 09:14 PM

They're going to wait until we fuck off and then take over Afghanistan again. There's nothing we can do about it. It's the height of arrogance to think we're going to have any effect on a country like that.

**greynotsoold** · 03-03-2020 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They're going to wait until we fuck off and then take over Afghanistan again. There's nothing we can do about it. It's the height of arrogance to think we're going to have any effect on a country like that.

That is exactly right.

**Spicoli** · 03-03-2020 02:26 AM

Welp, shat. Seems to have fallen apart as fast as it was glued together which is very unfortunate. But they cannot be trusted and we knew this. The shoot down they claimed last month didn't even make news really. Reminds of the George Aiken line 'just declare victory and leave'

. Of course that's not realistic either so yeh, we're knee deep still and it sucks.

**TitoFan** · 03-03-2020 03:29 AM

Ok so everyone agrees they can't be trusted. Why even entertain the idea of negotiating with them, then? IMO, it just emboldens them and gives them an inflated sense of legitimacy that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. It's not like there's dozens of other countries even giving a shit what the Taliban does. I'm tempted to draw a parallel with another troublemaking group/country rattling cages and demanding a seat at the grownups table. But I won't

Seriously, getting to the point where you're sitting down making deals with the U.S. seems to be the rite of passage and chest-thumping milestone EVERY rogue band of misfits should aspire to. The U.S. should take a page out of the handbook of world leaders at the G20, was it?.... when Ivanka tried to horn her way into a conversation between world leaders.