prime tyson vs prime lewis

[cockey cockney]

i have never really liked tyson i think he is way overated u should see people on youtube saying hes best ever not even ali could beat him lol

Well who knows Ali might not have beaten him the ali that fought Foreman would not have Tyson would woup his a** the Ali that fought Big cat williams would have i think but we will never no its all a matter of opinion.

well foreman is stronger than tyson if he could take foremans punches he could take tysons punches all i know is tyson would go for the kill early ali would weather his storm and stop him late

You dont know that though. Foreman and Mike on punching power is a close call. Plus Foreman's punches where about 100 times slower then a Prime Mike's. He had nothing near the defence ability either.

yea i do foreman used to leave dents in the heavybag foreman is stronger than tyson im pretty sure of that and if they fought prime for prime i say foreman quite early because remember fraizer vs foreman well fraizer had similar style to tyson and look what happened to him and tyson hasnt got the heart or chin fraizer has

But Frazier didnt have the defence, speed, and range of punches Tyson possesed. Prime for Prime Mike would Stop Foreman around the 9th, due to handspeed and defence IMO.

[El Kabong]

Frazier had defense but it was a different type of defense.....Foreman would punish Tyson

[ICB]

Frazier had defense but it was a different type of defense.....Foreman would punish Tyson

yea i agree lyle but i think we are the only ones who think that on this board

[El Kabong]

Yeah, cc for backing Big George though!


...Frazier would beat Tyson too

[Majesty]

plus this was his weight against spinks=218¼
his weight against berbick his two best fights=221¼
this was his weight for first ruddock fight= 217
and his weight for 2nd ruddock fight= 216 so he was actually lighter vs ruddock and he was in good shape so all this tyson prime ended in 86 and 88 is nonsense he still had headmovement vs ruddock plus power plus chin

Tysons prime and ending had nothing to do with his physical "in shape" imo it was his "mental drive" that ended it.  It's always been mentality with Mike.  He can be in good shape but he wasnt there mentally anymore.  After Spinks there was nothing else for him to do.  That plus Don not keeping him active had a lot to do with it.

[ICB]

Yeah, cc for backing Big George though!


...Frazier would beat Tyson too

cc back yea he is one of my most favourtie boxers great heart and earth shattering power maybe strongest punch ever in hw division yes fraizer very well could of he has the better chin better heart i see this being slugfest with fraizer getting dropped early and then getting to tyson late

[lb4lb]

i have never really liked tyson i think he is way overated u should see people on youtube saying hes best ever not even ali could beat him lol

Well who knows Ali might not have beaten him the ali that fought Foreman would not have Tyson would woup his a** the Ali that fought Big cat williams would have i think but we will never no its all a matter of opinion.

well foreman is stronger than tyson if he could take foremans punches he could take tysons punches all i know is tyson would go for the kill early ali would weather his storm and stop him late

You dont know that though. Foreman and Mike on punching power is a close call. Plus Foreman's punches where about 100 times slower then a Prime Mike's. He had nothing near the defence ability either.

yea i do foreman used to leave dents in the heavybag foreman is stronger than tyson im pretty sure of that and if they fought prime for prime i say foreman quite early because remember fraizer vs foreman well fraizer had similar style to tyson and look what happened to him and tyson hasnt got the heart or chin fraizer has

Foreman couldn't deal with Jimmy Young's defense how could he deal with Tyson's?

foreman wasnt in his prime plus young is totally different fighter to tyson u might aswell say how would tyson deal with foremans power if he was koed by douglas and tkoed by holyfield

Then I could say that Douglas and Holyfield both threw pinpoint short and accurate shots. Not swings from left field with windups

ruddock used to swing aswell with hooks and uppercuts and ruddock wobbled and hurt tyson in both fights on quite few occasions and foreman is better fighter than ruddock plus stronger

When did he wobble and hurt Tyson in both fights on quite a few occasions? Maybe the final seconds of the rematch but not anywhere else. And btw if we're going prime for prime it wouldnt be a prime tyson would it?

1st fight 6 th round he hurt tyson with left hook and some uppercuts and right hands 2nd fight i think he knocked his mouth piece out in 5th round in 9th or 8th round he hurt him aswell he hurt him some more aswell cant remember it all though tyson landed some many low blows against ruddock aswell in 2nd fight umm i dont think there was much difference between 80s and 1991 version he still had head movement the power and the chin because he took some bombs off ruddock and he was still young

I wonder if Ruddock did the same in his 2 rounds vs Lewis?

[ICB]

well we all know lewis destroyed ruddock

[lb4lb]

Tyson was closer to his prime 6 years before they actually fought, but Tyson gave Lewis 4 million bucks and threw away a title rather than fight him. I picked Lewis and I think Tyson picks Lewis on this one too.

[GAME]

Tyson was closer to his prime 6 years before they actually fought, but Tyson gave Lewis 4 million bucks and threw away a title rather than fight him. I picked Lewis and I think Tyson picks Lewis on this one too.

[eugepang]

Young or old, Lewis wins. Tyson even admitted it, after getting beat by Lewis, when they fought as kids. Lewis was always bigger and stronger. Only way Tyson would ever beat Lewis would be by a lucky punch on his glass chin, but I doubt it he would be able to land it, similar to Tua.

[Gandalf]

Young or old, Lewis wins. Tyson even admitted it, after getting beat by Lewis, when they fought as kids. Lewis was always bigger and stronger. Only way Tyson would ever beat Lewis would be by a lucky punch on his glass chin, but I doubt it he would be able to land it, similar to Tua.

Prime Tyson is not comparable with David Tua IMO....very different types of boxer....

[El Kabong]

....doesn't matter when in his career Tyson had trouble with tall boxers with power

[ICB]

correct lyle tucker 6 foot 5 won 4 rounds against prime tyson hell even biggs in first round showed how u beat tyson and i didnt think much of biggs either douglas is another tall boxer who beat tyson razor ruddock 6 foot 3 is another one tyson struggled with i dont know how tall tillis is but he had point deducted and he went full 10 rounds with tyson and didnt he win like 4 rounds ??

[eugepang]

Young or old, Lewis wins. Tyson even admitted it, after getting beat by Lewis, when they fought as kids. Lewis was always bigger and stronger. Only way Tyson would ever beat Lewis would be by a lucky punch on his glass chin, but I doubt it he would be able to land it, similar to Tua.

Prime Tyson is not comparable with David Tua IMO....very different types of boxer....

If you compare their fights with Lewis, they have similar boxing styles, size and strength, and short reach. Both of them couldn't land on Lennox's face.