Post your top ten heavyweights

[TitoFan]

And yet Jennings had just given Wlad a credible challenge the fight before Ortiz. So it's hardly fair to compare that Jennings to the one who has obviously faded and is on his way out, isn't it.

Not to mention that Jennings was the one who handed Perez his first loss. The very same Perez you tout as one of Povetkin's best wins.

The Povetkin win over Byrd was good, no doubt about that. But let's not forget that Byrd was two fights away from the end of his career and he was never truly a legitimate HW no matter how much some fans may have wished him to be. So you had a young, hungry prospect beating an old, overblown cruiser masquerading as a HW, while outweighing him by nearly 20 pounds and almost 10 years age difference.

Byrd is just a name on Povetkin's resume.

Again... I'm not arguing that Povetkin's resume isn't better than Ortiz's. Only that it's not the wide chasm you're making it out to be.

But like you said.... we can obviously disagree.

[Fenster]

Perez was "robbed" against Jennings... knocked unconscious in a round by Povetkin. The manner of victory is a factor in the way we rate careers, right?

I haven't compared the "faded" Jennings with the "non faded" version. You have that impression because - @TitoFan - you've butted into a discussion I was having with Powerpuncher, who is arguing Ortiz current form is superior to Povetkin's. You are bringing up points that strengthen my argument whilst weakening his. I was disproving your claim that Jennings should be above Hunter.

I'm happy to debate any opinions but it needs to be kept in context because I have no interest in tantrums and tiaras.

[TitoFan]

Perez was "robbed" against Jennings... knocked unconscious in a round by Povetkin. The manner of victory is a factor in the way we rate careers, right?

I haven't compared the "faded" Jennings with the "non faded" version. You have that impression because - @TitoFan - you've butted (Nobody "butted" into anything. Last I checked this was an open forum where we're all free to enter into any discussion. Particularly about boxing. But then again as a Mod, I'm sure you're aware of that. Feel free to tell me if the rules have changed.) into a discussion I was having with Powerpuncher, who is arguing Ortiz current form is superior to Povetkin's. You are bringing up points that strengthen my argument whilst weakening his. I was disproving your claim that Jennings should be above Hunter.

I'm happy to debate any opinions but it needs to be kept in context because I have no interest in tantrums and tiaras.

Nor do I.

In fact, I have no interest in continuing our dialogue period.

[TIC]

fenster is right, ortiz hasn't done shit

[TitoFan]

My post:

And yet Jennings had just given Wlad a credible challenge the fight before Ortiz. So it's hardly fair to compare that Jennings to the one who has obviously faded and is on his way out, isn't it.

Not to mention that Jennings was the one who handed Perez his first loss. The very same Perez you tout as one of Povetkin's best wins.

The Povetkin win over Byrd was good, no doubt about that. But let's not forget that Byrd was two fights away from the end of his career and he was never truly a legitimate HW no matter how much some fans may have wished him to be. So you had a young, hungry prospect beating an old, overblown cruiser masquerading as a HW, while outweighing him by nearly 20 pounds and almost 10 years age difference.

Byrd is just a name on Povetkin's resume.

Again... I'm not arguing that Povetkin's resume isn't better than Ortiz's. Only that it's not the wide chasm you're making it out to be.

But like you said.... we can obviously disagree.

Civil... non-combative. All about boxing.



Your response:

Perez was "robbed" against Jennings... knocked unconscious in a round by Povetkin. The manner of victory is a factor in the way we rate careers, right?

I haven't compared the "faded" Jennings with the "non faded" version. You have that impression because - @TitoFan - you've butted into a discussion I was having with Powerpuncher, who is arguing Ortiz current form is superior to Povetkin's. You are bringing up points that strengthen my argument whilst weakening his. I was disproving your claim that Jennings should be above Hunter.

I'm happy to debate any opinions but it needs to be kept in context because I have no interest in tantrums and tiaras.

Insulting, and provocative.

Again.... show me where it says I can't enter a discussion about boxing in a boxing board.

Also, show me where ANYTHING I SAID warranted your mention of tantrums, tiaras and flame wars.

Thanks.

@Spicoli
@Master
@Memphis
@Andre


I keep my dislike of you out of the boxing board. Can't you have the courtesy with everyone of doing the same?

[ykdadamaja]

this thread went gay.

[Fenster]

Just Titofan being Titofan. As I predicted he'd throw a tantrum and not make one boxing related argument, just rant and rave at me then cry for help whilst playing the victim. Rinse and repeat, same MO on every board. If he was really interested in boxing talk he'd have explained why Jennings "runs rings" around Hunter but no, he was obviously never interested in anything but hysterically ranting at Fenster.

C'est la vie

One more chance, sport?

[Master]

this thread went gay.

Totally. Let's keep it to boxing only and nothing personal.

[Fenster]

Perez was "robbed" against Jennings... knocked unconscious in a round by Povetkin. The manner of victory is a factor in the way we rate careers, right?

I haven't compared the "faded" Jennings with the "non faded" version. You have that impression because - @TitoFan - you've butted (Nobody "butted" into anything. Last I checked this was an open forum where we're all free to enter into any discussion. Particularly about boxing. But then again as a Mod, I'm sure you're aware of that. Feel free to tell me if the rules have changed.) into a discussion I was having with Powerpuncher, who is arguing Ortiz current form is superior to Povetkin's. You are bringing up points that strengthen my argument whilst weakening his. I was disproving your claim that Jennings should be above Hunter.

I'm happy to debate any opinions but it needs to be kept in context because I have no interest in tantrums and tiaras.

Nor do I.

In fact, I have no interest in continuing our dialogue period.

What a surprise. In future try to understand what is being debated before sticking your oar in. If you claim Jennings resume "runs rings" around Hunter's then provide some evidence/reasons. I would gladly have explored that debate.

((stick to boxing on the boxing board, there's plenty of other boards for you to have your flame wars. thanks))

[TitoFan]

Perez was "robbed" against Jennings... knocked unconscious in a round by Povetkin. The manner of victory is a factor in the way we rate careers, right?

I haven't compared the "faded" Jennings with the "non faded" version. You have that impression because - @TitoFan - you've butted (Nobody "butted" into anything. Last I checked this was an open forum where we're all free to enter into any discussion. Particularly about boxing. But then again as a Mod, I'm sure you're aware of that. Feel free to tell me if the rules have changed.) into a discussion I was having with Powerpuncher, who is arguing Ortiz current form is superior to Povetkin's. You are bringing up points that strengthen my argument whilst weakening his. I was disproving your claim that Jennings should be above Hunter.

I'm happy to debate any opinions but it needs to be kept in context because I have no interest in tantrums and tiaras.

Nor do I.

In fact, I have no interest in continuing our dialogue period.

What a surprise. In future try to understand what is being debated before sticking your oar in. If you claim Jennings resume "runs rings" around Hunter's then provide some evidence/reasons. I would gladly have explored that debate.

((stick to boxing on the boxing board, there's plenty of other boards for you to have your flame wars. thanks))

Tantrums? Tiaras? Flame wars? Oh my! Someone got up a little cranky this morning.

You would've gladly "explored that debate"? Me too. Would it have killed you to say that nicely?

For the record, I seriously doubt you have any interest in debating anything with me.

Tantrums, tiaras, and flame wars. Hmm... pray tell what about my previous post brought this on?

"Butting in"? I was under the impression this was a public boxing board. I would think one can only "butt in" on a private conversation. But you tell me.

By the way, I DID stick to boxing on the boxing board. My argument was all about boxing.

Please show me one word I addressed to you here that was not about boxing.

Thanks.