Post your top ten heavyweights

[Freedom]

Hunter's draw with Povetkin is stronger form than anything Ortiz has done. He's in his prime, just held his own with a former "champ" and perennial top 10 heavyweight and gave Uysk (P4Per) his most competitive fight to date (IMO).

Ortiz best win - Jennings - has just been schooled by a prospect and prior to that ironed out by Rivas (10th). Ortiz fought him on the back of a loss. Ortiz best recent victory is over Hammer (a man Povetkin beat with ease who wouldn't rank in his top ten best wins). So whether we use recent form or backdated stuff Povetkin trumps Ortiz at every turn... unless, of course, we are crediting Ortiz for being Wilder's claim to fame (which is obvious).

So lets play that game.

Ortiz - best fighter faced = Wilder
Povetkin - best fighter faced = Wlad/AJ
Hunter - best fighter faced = Uysk (Povetkin at heavy)
Jennings - best fighter faced = Wlad

You see? We have a pattern forming here where Ortiz and Wilder are isolated whilst the others have all competed against first ballot HOF-ers and genuine champs.

My argument isn't about "what could have been" or "should have been" it's purely about "what has happened." Fact. And guess what? If you disagree with my reasoning that's cool and the gang.

You are correct.

I've followed the heavyweight division probably as closely as anyone during the past fifteen years (recall my heavyweight thread) and I agree with you.

Luiz Ortiz has been very overrated. His resume is awful except for Jennings. He fought an opponent in his pro debut in his 18th pro fight. Tony Thompson was good in his late 30s, but he was a faded age 45 when he fought Ortiz. Monte Barrett was well over 40 and a full decade past his prime.

Povetkin has fought much better opposition. He went the distance with a still-prime Klitschko. His only other loss, when he was himself past prime, was to Joshua. Both prime Klitschko and current Joshua are much better than Wilder, who twice stopped Ortiz.