Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Nobody here disagrees that Povetkin's resume is superior to Ortiz's. But my question to you would be comparing Michael Hunter's resume versus Bryant Jennings, the former an opponent of Povetkin's and the latter an opponent of Ortiz. Jennings may be washed up and on his way out now, but when he fought Ortiz he was just off a UD loss to Wlad and a decision win over Mike Perez just before that. He entered the Wlad fight as the #2, 3, and 4 ranked (WBA, WBO, and IBF respectively) ranked heavyweight in the world. Hunter by contrast, had done absolute jack at heavy before his split decision draw vs Povetkin. Which is why I don't see using Jennings, Hunter, or Perez for that matter to advance arguments about Povetkin's resume vs Ortiz. Not even Byrd, who was just a washed up shell of himself when he faced the young, hungry Povetkin. What's your take on this................. Freedom?
- Hunter did not fight a prime Povetkin, Sasha is 40 and Hunter is in his prime at 30. Povetkin of say 2007 to 2015 would have easily beaten Hunter. Bryd was faded in 2007, true, but so is Povetkin now. By the way, Povetkin deserved
to win against Hunter, remember there was a knockdown of Hunter that the ref ignored.
- Chambers was young and very fast when Povetkin beat him in 2008 (see Chambers vs an undefeated and better version of Dimitrenko). Povetkin's wins over Chagaev and Perez were impressive. Wawrzyk was never any good despite the undefeated record, but Takam was six years younger and a strong, capable heavyweight (maybe deserved at least a draw against Parker) around the time he fought Povetkin.
- Povetkin's amateur record is much better than Ortiz's. In the world championships in 2003, Povetkin beat a better Cuban than Ortiz, who was not even one of the top two Cuban heavyweights of his time.
- I remember watching Jennings vs. Klitschko and thinking Wlad is finally fading with age, his movements are slower and not as fluid at age 38 as they were when he was younger. I remember posting that
prime Wlad vs. Jennings would have been a lot like 2006 Wlad vs. Brock or 2000 Wlad vs. Barrett.
- How many world titleholders has Ortiz fought? One, who twice knocked him out. How many has Povetkin fought? Four, his record is 2-2 and he was only stopped once, when he was age 38 and in against a better heavyweight than Wilder.
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