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    All Time:

    1. Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis- Poster child for missed opportunities- worse than Manny vs. Floyd and Wilder vs AJ.
    2. Ike Quartey vs Tito Trinidad- Think Tito wins by late stoppage but would've been a great fight (better than Oscar vs Tito and Oscar vs Ike) due to the style match up.
    3. Mike Mcallum vs Tommy Hearns- Mike was a beast and deserved to be in there with Hagler, Hearns...etc.
    4. Shane Mosely vs Floyd (140)- Think Floyd still wins but feel this version of Shane gives him a much rougher fight.
    5. Roy Jones Jr. vs. G-Man- Think Roy wins but early rounds would have been hell for him. Once Gerald gassed I think Roy pot shots him to a stoppage from accumulation.

    Honorable Mentions: Evander vs Mike Tyson prior to Douglas fight, James Toney vs Nigel Benn and/or Chris Eubank, Lennox Lewis vs Ike Ibeabuchi, James Toney vs BHOP at lightheavy, Oscar vs Kostya Tszyu, JCC vs Roberto Duran

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    All-time I would have wanted a Gomez-Sanchez rematch. Gomez would've been better prepared, and the outcome could've easily gone the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    All Time:

    1. Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis- Poster child for missed opportunities- worse than Manny vs. Floyd and Wilder vs AJ.
    2. Ike Quartey vs Tito Trinidad- Think Tito wins by late stoppage but would've been a great fight (better than Oscar vs Tito and Oscar vs Ike) due to the style match up.
    3. Mike Mcallum vs Tommy Hearns- Mike was a beast and deserved to be in there with Hagler, Hearns...etc.
    4. Shane Mosely vs Floyd (140)- Think Floyd still wins but feel this version of Shane gives him a much rougher fight.
    5. Roy Jones Jr. vs. G-Man- Think Roy wins but early rounds would have been hell for him. Once Gerald gassed I think Roy pot shots him to a stoppage from accumulation.

    Honorable Mentions: Evander vs Mike Tyson prior to Douglas fight, James Toney vs Nigel Benn and/or Chris Eubank, Lennox Lewis vs Ike Ibeabuchi, James Toney vs BHOP at lightheavy, Oscar vs Kostya Tszyu, JCC vs Roberto Duran
    These are great! Bazooka and Tito is a firestorm. At the time I always thought Bowe would be to able for that early Lewis but it didn't happen for a reason all these years later. Bowe knew it as did Rock Newman.

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    Bowe probably could have beaten the Lennox Lewis before he was with Manny Steward. That Lewis was not the polished fighter he later went on to be whilst Bowe was with Futch and had better discipline. Riddick really did want that fight but McCall stopped Lennox and once he got the legendary trainer, Bowe avoided the fight.
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    I think that on the night Bowe beat Evander ( first fight), he would have been difficult for any heavyweight in history. Bowe was in great shape, had great movement, was a true “big man”, had fast hands, and great fundamentals/technique inside and out. That being said, I never saw Riddick that good again.

    Lennox, like most fighters, had a tendency to take certain opponents lightly- Bruno, McCall, Rahman...etc., but I always found him to elevate his game and fight his best vs those he viewed as legitimate threats- Ruddock, Tua, Tyson, Evander...etc. Lennox reached his peak under Manny Steward, but he was a big man, had the harder punch, was pretty mobile/athletic, and was very intelligent in the ring behind his educated left jab. Riddick and Lennox ushered in the age of the super heavyweights.

    I don’t think either was scared of the other, I think they were trying to maximize the payday and let the fight marinate but missed their opportunity when Lennox was stopped and Riddick got fat. This was similar to Manny and Floyd (Manny getting stopped by JMM) waiting a littl too long to maximize their profits/ revenues, although unlike Bowe/Lewis they still did pretty well having their fight years after the expiration date. This has happened to AJ as well- some of the luster is now off him vs Tyson and/or Wilder.

    As to who wins- I think Riddick is a little too mobile for Lennox if they fight and Riddick is close to what we saw when he first won his title. Later on, say 1994 and after, I think Lennox beats him. Remember how bad Riddick looked vs Evander in the rematch and both Golota fights, Lennox doesn’t lose to those versions of Bowe in my opinion.

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    Prime Bowe (v Evander 1) v Prime Lennox (Mercer, Holyfield 1 McCall 2, Rahman 2) would have been a good fight but think Prime Lennox would always win.

    Remember Lennox beat Bowe in the Olympics and may have that psychological edge over him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I think that on the night Bowe beat Evander ( first fight), he would have been difficult for any heavyweight in history. Bowe was in great shape, had great movement, was a true “big man”, had fast hands, and great fundamentals/technique inside and out. That being said, I never saw Riddick that good again.

    Lennox, like most fighters, had a tendency to take certain opponents lightly- Bruno, McCall, Rahman...etc., but I always found him to elevate his game and fight his best vs those he viewed as legitimate threats- Ruddock, Tua, Tyson, Evander...etc. Lennox reached his peak under Manny Steward, but he was a big man, had the harder punch, was pretty mobile/athletic, and was very intelligent in the ring behind his educated left jab. Riddick and Lennox ushered in the age of the super heavyweights.

    I don’t think either was scared of the other, I think they were trying to maximize the payday and let the fight marinate but missed their opportunity when Lennox was stopped and Riddick got fat. This was similar to Manny and Floyd (Manny getting stopped by JMM) waiting a littl too long to maximize their profits/ revenues, although unlike Bowe/Lewis they still did pretty well having their fight years after the expiration date. This has happened to AJ as well- some of the luster is now off him vs Tyson and/or Wilder.

    As to who wins- I think Riddick is a little too mobile for Lennox if they fight and Riddick is close to what we saw when he first won his title. Later on, say 1994 and after, I think Lennox beats him. Remember how bad Riddick looked vs Evander in the rematch and both Golota fights, Lennox doesn’t lose to those versions of Bowe in my opinion.
    I'm with you there on neither being literally afraid of the other. On Bowes front I fault Newman more so for all the double talk and reneging on the previous agreement that winner of Lewis - Ruddock would be mandatory challenger next out as the wbc put it out. Of course there are always politics and numbers to be ironed out but the 90-10 split they put forth seemed a non starter. I never saw the proposed meeting around 95' as serious with Bowe waddling in at 250 with Buster Mathis Jr around the time Lewis Lost to McCall. The only one that mattered was the one Bowe opted out of by binning his belt on stage at the urging of Newman, something Bowe says he now regrets. The wbc, network and the four fighters all knew what was on the table. Today I cannot a heavyweight champ doing something similar and not being ripped to shreds for it . Bowe is such an enigma. To me he arguably peaked in the instant. On fight night v Holyfield I he was the definition of a multi geared versatile big man. The outside game and ability to mix inside was brilliant. But his biggest fight was self discipline and focus. What could have been. It'll always go down as a promising gem of a showdown but risks were reserved.

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    Fury v AJ - still can’t see anything other than an easy night for Tyson with Joshua pulled out by his corner around the 10th

    AJ v Wilder - still want to see this one to decide who second best HW is. AJ dominates on the scorecard but can’t see Wilder not landing and ending it

    Brook v Khan - but 4 years ago. Khan iced out before end of 3rd

    Pac v Floyd - NOW. Floyd keeps saying he’s coming back but time is running out. He knows he can’t beat Pac now. I’m not alone in wanting to see Floyd battered into submission

    Usyk v Whyte - who’s the best of the also rans
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    Top two same as Mark

    Always thought AJ beats Fury, nothing on either side has changed my mind on that. The easy answer is Fury stands him on his head. The easy answer was also that Wilder would KO Fury at some point.
    Wilder AJ is and always will be a shootout. Possibly leaning more towards AJ at this point as Wilder's inability to deal with someone pushing him back was evident. AJ would have to be aggressive. If he stands off he's in Wilders wheelhouse and constantly moments away from unconsciousness.
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    Buatsi V Yarde - Buatsi Should be taking Yarde apart.
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