Credit where it is due. Lets hope it is not too late. From tonight 23 March 2020
Credit where it is due. Lets hope it is not too late. From tonight 23 March 2020
The scary thing is his deputy is Raab. Fucking hell, God help us
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...IFcG-qcP1w8Prw
Now the Matt Hancock health secretary has it - https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/27/healt...XCayVZ5uGfh770
Damn I was going to start a thread on this just heard it this AM. Pretty serious shit I hope he is ok. Apparently he was “bragging” about shaking hands in a coronavirus unit in a hospital. That was mentioned in the US media I don’t know if it’s fact. So now your top guy has it, how will that effect shit. Plus prince Charles, damn the world is going to hell
Like Trump unfortunately the guy has a track record of being a compulsive liar. Him catching the virus when he and the shambles of a government we have, ignored all scientific advice and evidence from around the world, should not be surprising. You would until tonight have thought his press conference stand in can hardly do a worse job...and then up steps Gove. a man famous for not believing in 'experts' . You may as well have a flat earther up there
Here is Johnson being a dick just like your President, and those here pretending it is nothing special to worry about.
https://news.sky.com/video/coronavir...ybody-11948548
More fallacious reasoning with your continued appeal to authority.
Define flat earther. I deny the claims of the affirmative claim made by those that believe they live on a pressurized spinning nature defying sphere in a vacuum. I'm a realist.
Still waiting for any of the following:
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container.
Your experiment proving gravity, telling me what your independent and dependant variables were.
These will do for a start.
You are a reality denier. You have no understanding of science (especially physics) and only have faith and pseudoscience to support your zealot like beliefs.
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You are mistaking argumentum ad verecundiam. I am not appealing to some kind of expert authority because of a misplaced sense of reverence, that ignores facts, or that seeks to employ the argument of someone who is not an expert in the field we are discussing. I am in fact questioning idiots like Gove, and yourself, who claim that there is no such thing as experts, and that every claim made by anyone must be personally verified through physical experiments undertaken firsthand.
This is what makes you not just an idiot but a dangerous one. Your own atrociously poor grasp of how to debate is wholly characterized by fallacious reasoning.
I really don't want to grace your nonsense with anything but the ridicule it deserves, but i will give you the benefit of the doubt, and hopefully you will see why you are so stuck down your own personal rabbit hole, and why stamping your feet is just making it harder for you to extract yourself.
1. You yourself are always employing 'argumentum ad verecundiam' an appeal to authority. It is not the case that an appeal to authority is necessarily fallacious, as you so ignorantly seem to insist. It is when the expert referred to is a non-authority, an anonymous or unqualified authority. These are always the authorities you invoke. Especially when the 'Expert' is yourself. An appeal to a legitimate expert is not fallacious at all, and yet you insist that it is. It is the only way you can maintain the self brainwashing nonsense that defines your ludicrous outlook.
2. Ad Hominem/ Guilt by association. This is the base point that distorts your view of the world and insists that anyone trying to reach out and help drag you out of the hole can not be trusted. Don't worry you are not alone in this it is a common reaction for all of us imperfect humans. Terms like 'Reality Denier, Pseudoscience, Zealot like beliefs, you have no understanding of science' are prime examples. They would be arguments if they were qualified with evidence, which is what i try to do when employing words with less pretty imprints.
3. Slippery slope/ Dominoe theory. You argue that because i have not personally been to space and because you can fake images, that one can never trust video or photos taken from space even when verified by thousands of people. You use this not just to prove a flat earth but to disprove the holocaust or anything you choose to make shit up about because you insist on taking things to the extreme. Logic, rationality and evidence are dismissed in order for you to claim complete bollocks. One could hardly be more fallacious.
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Just more drivel from you. Practically demonstrate your beliefs with experiments.
What authority do I appeal to? I only deal in natural science. Where have I claimed there is no such thing as experts? An appeal to authority who only has beliefs and is unable to back up those beliefs with practical demonstrations and experiments is where there problem occurs. Then using those authorities/ experts support is where the fallacious reasoning comes in. I never refer to myself as an expert, I rely on natural science, observation and experiments to disprove the claims of the globe.
There is nothing to debate, earth is demonstrably level.
All I need to you to do is provide your practical demonstrations/ experiments. You obviously have no understanding of science. You are the only one between us using ad hominem, calling me an idiot is attacking my character, it isn't measurable proof of the affirmative claim using natural or applied science using tangible substance.
You haven't been to space, so you are unable to falsify anything to do with it. I don't accept images as proof of anything, do you? There are plenty of images of Superman and Santa, doesn't make them anymore real to me. Are you claiming thousands of people have been to space? What flat earth are you talking about? The earth is demonstrably level. Natural science proves the globe is a nature defying absurdity. Why do you keep bringing up the holohoax?
Still waiting for your practical demonstrations/ experiments to back up your beliefs:
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container.
Your experiment proving gravity, telling me what your independent and dependant variables were.
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