If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic

[TitoFan]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

[Master]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

Walrus. His true motive has come out.

[TitoFan]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

Walrus. His true motive has come out.

"Some of the childish losers on this forum" is plural. I think it's time we start addressing each other responsibly and directly, as adults.

If nothing else, I strive to be crystal clear with my opinions, no matter how unpopular they may be (which reminds me of that long-forgotten thread about unpopular opinions ).

I'll also address the person directly when I need to.

[walrus]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

Walrus. His true motive has come out.

What’s my true motive

[Master]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

Walrus. His true motive has come out.

What’s my true motive

Political.

[walrus]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

Walrus. His true motive has come out.

What’s my true motive

Political.

No not at all when I mention the virus. It just is what it is. The other matters are real life facts and I will bring them up. I think it is difficult to make a case that I am prejudice against Chinese however if you feel that is the case so be it.

[Master]

Just the government of China, politically motivated, that is your motive and intention. Nothing more, nothing less.

[walrus]

Just the government of China, politically motivated, that is your motive and intention. Nothing more, nothing less.

Not when I mention the virus by name. Yes I have issues with the government of China

[TitoFan]

Found something of interest

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/13...ces-or-people/

Oh wait..... I found this in The Federalist.

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any opinion whatsoever on the part of TitoFan.

[Beanz]

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.

People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.

It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.

Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?

I was excluding El Kabong from this particular 'victim' crap, and I certainly don't think he is a racist, but he is certainly one of those pedalling the lame alt right free speech virtue signalling on this forum.

This whole thread is a perfect example of an inverted clarion call for victim hood. The exact thing those claiming it continually chastise the 'PC' opposition they do resemble themselves for.

Nobody is censoring anyone, just pointing out what you claim is plain speech or just 'keeping it real' is nothing of the sort. You are not even really interested in intent.

Walrus intent is hilariously nothing to do with being clear or straight talking, like he claimed, it is all about attributing blame.

Even you used the Spanish Flu as an example of keeping it real which again is very funny because it is probably one of the most famous examples of the opposite. The Spanish unlike the Chinese (and the Brits, Germans, French etc at the time) never covered anything up. That is why they got the blame for a plague that started in America. Their numbers were actually smaller but they never sugar coated them unlike the PC like attitude still present here amongst those pretending America and the UK are something they are not.

Call it what you want but without extensive testing the west, especially the UK is being hugely negligent and dishonest. Calling it Wuhan Virus is a way of trying to obscure that. The exact same politicisation, those using it, claim to be above engaging in.

[El Kabong]

Irritated? That like Freedoms fevered hate fantasy is in your head. Surely by now you can see how you are the constantly irritated one, like some over sensitive oyster where any alternative opionon is like grit to you.

The Christian minority in Egypt were debestated by their pigs being slaughtered - https://www.reuters.com/article/ozat...53S0F520090429

All I said was we have 0 problem calling it swine flu where I live.

Also from your article: "The move was not expected to prevent the H1N1 virus from striking, since the illness is spread by people and not present in Egyptian swine. However, a cull of pigs, largely viewed as unclean in conservative Muslim Egypt, could help quell a panic."

But do please go on

[Beanz]

Irritated? That like Freedoms fevered hate fantasy is in your head. Surely by now you can see how you are the constantly irritated one, like some over sensitive oyster where any alternative opionon is like grit to you.

The Christian minority in Egypt were debestated by their pigs being slaughtered - https://www.reuters.com/article/ozat...53S0F520090429

All I said was we have 0 problem calling it swine flu where I live.

Also from your article: "The move was not expected to prevent the H1N1 virus from striking, since the illness is spread by people and not present in Egyptian swine. However, a cull of pigs, largely viewed as unclean in conservative Muslim Egypt, could help quell a panic."

But do please go on

That was not all you said at all. You said "Why so irritated?" It is a tactic you have always used because you are used to manipulating the conversation to get people to say what you want them to say. Why not show a ounce of genuine interest in what people actually think instead of making everything into a wrong/right polarised dumb argument?


Why leave out

"Pigs are mainly raised by Egypt’s Christian minority."

?and make it about Muslims againAnyone would think that you were trying to politicize everything to fit your own personal myopic world view

[El Kabong]

That was not all you said at all. You said "Why so irritated?" It is a tactic you have always used because you are used to manipulating the conversation to get people to say what you want them to say. Why not show a ounce of genuine interest in what people actually think instead of making everything into a wrong/right polarised dumb argument?


Why leave out

"Pigs are mainly raised by Egypt’s Christian minority."

?and make it about Muslims againAnyone would think that you were trying to politicize everything to fit your own personal myopic world view

You mean the Muslim majority oppressed the Christian minority?

IMAGINE.


MY.


SHOCK.



"Why leave out".....yeah I'll have a fucking crack at THAT @Beanz why would YOU leave out that the Spanish Flu was accurately reported on by the Spanish because they weren't involved in World War 1? Why would you leave that out? Hmmm? Anything to fit YOUR fucking political narrative eh Beaner?

[Beanz]

That was not all you said at all. You said "Why so irritated?" It is a tactic you have always used because you are used to manipulating the conversation to get people to say what you want them to say. Why not show a ounce of genuine interest in what people actually think instead of making everything into a wrong/right polarised dumb argument?


Why leave out

"Pigs are mainly raised by Egypt’s Christian minority."

?and make it about Muslims againAnyone would think that you were trying to politicize everything to fit your own personal myopic world view

You mean the Muslim majority oppressed the Christian minority?

IMAGINE.


MY.


SHOCK.



"Why leave out".....yeah I'll have a fucking crack at THAT @Beanz why would YOU leave out that the Spanish Flu was accurately reported on by the Spanish because they weren't involved in World War 1? Why would you leave that out? Hmmm? Anything to fit YOUR fucking political narrative eh Beaner?

That is your idea of me because you are a bit limited to put it politely. It has nothing to do with reality. You have taken me pointing out the idiocy of misnaming things and the consequences for a Christian minority and totally inverted it to try and pretend that you again are the victim. And again you are using the fact that the Spanish did not resort to obfuscation to defend other countries lying about their numbers.

It is always the same with you. Black and White. Right and Wrong and yet most adults know the world does not work like that.

You are an extremist to be brutally honest. Look at how again you are stamping your feet and demanding Political Correctness.

Hilarious

[El Kabong]

That is your idea of me because you are a bit limited to put it politely.

Am I limited Beanz? How so? Mentally? Emotionally? Physically? Shall we compare and contrast ourselves here or would that not be to your liking?

It has nothing to do with reality.

Probably best you stick to subjects you're familiar with.

You have taken me pointing out the idiocy of misnaming things and the consequences for a Christian minority and totally inverted it to try and pretend that you again are the victim.

Well #1 the swine flu isn't "misnamed" it does indeed come from pigs much as the Avian/Bird flu comes from birds #2 Muslims don't like pigs regardless of the situation so it's possible if not probable that the muslims just killed off the pigs because they deemed them dirty animals....the article you cited stated as much

And again you are using the fact that the Spanish did not resort to obfuscation to defend other countries lying about their numbers.

The Spanish weren't involved in World War 1. During that era the media was censored much like the media was censored during WW2 or the media was censored in ALL wars so they don't report troop positions or plans or weather or weaknesses like ooooooh I don't know an epidemic of deadly flu you absolute fucking moron.

It is always the same with you. Black and White. Right and Wrong and yet most adults know the world does not work like that.

Odd coming from someone with a certain developmental disorder

You are an extremist to be brutally honest. Look at how again you are stamping your feet and demanding Political Correctness.

Hilarious

What is "Politically Correct" about what I've posted?