Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?

[Spicoli]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

[Memphis]

TIC. I said in that thread that the brother of my missus’s friend had died of it. You want proof how, death certificate? Even if I could, or would share that with you. What then?

[TIC]

TIC. I said in that thread that the brother of my missus’s friend had died of it. You want proof how, death certificate? Even if I could, or would share that with you. What then?

i was talking about the poll thread but anyway, so how do you know the brother of your missus's friend had it? no i don't want a death certificate, i want you to provide me with the test or tests you did to prove it was covid-19

[Memphis]

You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?

Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?

[TIC]

You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?

Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?

so you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?

[Memphis]

You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?

Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?

so you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?

Yes. I believed the words that came out of her mouth. I believed those words because they echoed what was in the message she received. From that point going backwards, it could have been a massive web of lies, I just don’t know. I didn’t think to ask for the testing procedure that was undertaken on the basis that a stranger on the internet might not believe it.

You want to test everyone you know for a virus that a) doesn’t exist or b) isn’t that serious? Why?

Let’s assume we do all that. What next? I’m keen to know where this is going.

[TIC]

You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?

Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?

so you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?

Yes. I believed the words that came out of her mouth. I believed those words because they echoed what was in the message she received. From that point going backwards, it could have been a massive web of lies, I just don’t know. I didn’t think to ask for the testing procedure that was undertaken on the basis that a stranger on the internet might not believe it.

You want to test everyone you know for a virus that a) doesn’t exist or b) isn’t that serious? Why?

Let’s assume we do all that. What next? I’m keen to know where this is going.

so you're ok with the world being shutdown & the reality of people losing their lively hoods based on beliefs? do you wear a mask when you go out? & if so why?

[TIC]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

[Spicoli]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.

Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.

[TIC]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.

Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.

that's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is now

[Spicoli]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.

Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.

that's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is now

Pretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.

[Gandalf]

I was a bit tongue in cheek with the panic attacks, but seriously a good diet, good exercise, avoidance of booze and drugs and not working too hard and you are on your way to freedom. Take care of yourself, Spicoli. Only you can do that.

[Spicoli]

I was a bit tongue in cheek with the panic attacks, but seriously a good diet, good exercise, avoidance of booze and drugs and not working too hard and you are on your way to freedom. Take care of yourself, Spicoli. Only you can do that.

I'm good bro but thanks for the judgments and assumptions . Been doing that last part my entire life btw.

[TIC]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.

Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.

that's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is now

Pretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.

isn't it about saving humanity? a lot more lives are lost to other causes but none of these shutdown the world. show me proof that i would be that i would be gambling with the health of friends & loved ones. i don't go around coughing on people. people can decide for themselves if they want to risk socializing, if you had a business would you prefer to take a risk of getting the virus & keeping your business afloat to those that chose to use your services or risk losing it & not being able to provide for your loved ones?

[Spicoli]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19

So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.

Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.

that's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is now

Pretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.

isn't it about saving humanity? a lot more lives are lost to other causes but none of these shutdown the world. show me proof that i would be that i would be gambling with the health of friends & loved ones. i don't go around coughing on people. people can decide for themselves if they want to risk socializing, if you had a business would you prefer to take a risk of getting the virus & keeping your business afloat to those that chose to use your services or risk losing it & not being able to provide for your loved ones?

Thing about a virus is it's not only about me or who I choose to cough on. As individuals that's fine, but what we choose to open ourselves up to is what we carry and transmit to every other person we come in contact with. Any virus not just a still yet to be fully understood Covid. With business you find compromise as to ensure the safety of staff and clients, less you become the one on the street with a reputation of winging it and assuming my want and rights outweigh exactly those who I need to keep it afloat. Ya can't talk about saving humanity but never look or consider consequences beyond yourself.